ESPN has ruined our nation

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN?

Eating dinner...you.??

can you explain why exactly?

Excessive everything...Is everything they do so damn important...I mean its corporate greed...Fat guys in front their tv who actually think that shit is important...They make college coaches into heros..they dont dare question them about anything..its all a crock of shit..can you relate brother..?..Do you know how many working people come into my store and buy Under Armor..??..spending every dime they have just to look like a clown on ESPN..and they dont look like that...I turned off the tv a month ago...no more tv ...Id rather be in some cabin with my wife and kids and groovin on nature and jammin to some emmylou or Tom Rush..I am dropping out...the only time youll see me is at the races or a runnin store.....ive had it

I only occasionally watch NBA basketball, but although there's no doubt guys are better physical specimens today and, yeah, they can dunk spectacularly, the fact is they can't play the game. And they can't shoot. You can watch for several minutes, just seeing guys going up and down the court aimlessly and cluelessly.

But as to ruining our nation, I thought MTV had already done that.

To say that ESPN has ruined our nation is absolutely ubsurd. Yes I think that the level of overall play in the NBA has gone down, but ESPN is amazing and to diss something like that only proves your narrow running only mind. I'm an avid runner and always will be, but to say ESPN, the best TV station ever, is the cause of the things that you said is just plain ridiculous.

Hey, ESPN has PTI, my fav if I'm home when it's on. I think the guys are pretty funny and have some good banter. As for the 4 major sports, heck, they've been going downhill in quality for some time now. The only reason I watch the NFL is 'cause of the office pool. Used to be a season ticket holder the Sixer's, but except for Iverson, they're 'ehhh'. And he can't shoot either. Great scorer, lousy shooter. I digress.

The real death rattle of our society is FOX, IMHO.

Nike..Espn..MTV..Timberlands...Obesity..Condos..BMWs..Under Armor...All Tv...Record companies..Both political parties.....Just off the top of my head

Finally a stupid thread that I'm in COMPLETE agreement with. I've been out of work for the last 6 weeks, just basically sittin' on my ass, running, etc., away from "playing the game". It's been nice getting a break from the shit most people my age find so important.

Actually Nasty Drunk, you are verly clost to Utopia. Dropping out of society and the ills that you will leave behind isn't a bad idea.

I wish I had the gonads to join ya.

Hey Big One, you can take little steps that go a long way. To begin with, program your TV to skip over certain channels. In our house QVC, HSN, EWTN, Fox News, et al. simply do not exist! For the most part, my wife and I never watch televised sports (the exception being the Olympics and occasional T&F stuff). Heck, my TV is almost always tuned to Discovery-Science channel. If it ain't there then it's probably on History, Bravo (we do enjoy "Queer Eye"), or similar. I can't turn the channel fast enough if one of those contrived "reality" shows comes on.

Better yet, pick up a musical instrument. Hours of enjoyment that will continue for a lifetime. I think that learning to play musical instruments was one of the best long-term time investments I ever made. It will keep you sane!

The internet, however, hasn't had a single negative effect on our society.

relating your feelings on the internet shows you are net ready to drop out of society. your existance is chained to this technology, and your only hope is to remove yourself from all forms of activity that require electic power. locking yourself in a plexi glass box for 30 day with only water is a good start.

JimFiore wrote:

Hey Big One, you can take little steps that go a long way. To begin with, program your TV to skip over certain channels. In our house QVC, HSN, EWTN, Fox News, et al. simply do not exist! For the most part, my wife and I never watch televised sports (the exception being the Olympics and occasional T&F stuff). Heck, my TV is almost always tuned to Discovery-Science channel. If it ain't there then it's probably on History, Bravo (we do enjoy "Queer Eye"), or similar. I can't turn the channel fast enough if one of those contrived "reality" shows comes on.

Better yet, pick up a musical instrument. Hours of enjoyment that will continue for a lifetime. I think that learning to play musical instruments was one of the best long-term time investments I ever made. It will keep you sane!

What is wrong with EWTN? You a Catholic-basher?

BMW makes a damn fine automobile.

A site worth checking out - http://www.adbusters.org

I am not close to Utopia bro...I live and work in the Baltimore/Washington D.C area...Its not where I want to be...but a family issue has me here...I would rather be in a smaller/slower /safer/healthier/less gaudy place....Ill get there but not today like I want..I am frickin bummed..I may need a shrink to get thru this...I am injured and cant run ..this is worse then a taper

just wanted to let you all know that Trista and Ryan's 2 hour wedding finale is tomorrow night. Also fat america no knows that eating carbs is bad so they eat protein now. its called the adkins diet, so things will be better there. listen to dr. phil on everything he has the answers. under armor is good if you want to protect your house. the avg. joe is fat and not beautiful like a millionaire named joe. finally i would like to add that without mtv's cribs, my life would seem better.

i want a perfect body..i want a perfect sole...but i'm a creep

Strang thread to say the least, but I'm enjoying it, because in some wierd way I'm agreeing with you. I can't pick up any shows on my TV, and I'm loving it. TV is such a waste of time. The timing of the thread is kinda odd because I'm in the middle of a paper over the effects of TV, including the perpetuation of certain stereotypes.