also not all wolves are evenly match...some are much smaller and seem to run faster when spooked..
some of the large males would approach the size of an average human(one weight in yellowstone was 161lb)...they dont seem quite as fast..
also not all wolves are evenly match...some are much smaller and seem to run faster when spooked..
some of the large males would approach the size of an average human(one weight in yellowstone was 161lb)...they dont seem quite as fast..
One Fast Doggie wrote:
She ran 9.4 in the 100m,
But did she pull up at the end to celebrate?
txRUNNERgirl wrote:
Most dogs could do it. They have 4 legs.
http://www.iditarod.com/
So what does the number of legs have to do with speed and endurance? Centipedes and millipedes aren't noted for being very fast. Turtles have 4 legs too. So do horses, which would not be faster across 100m thru the marathon.
Many dogs could break any human's WR from the 100m to the marathon, but not any dog.
I am willing to bet a substantial amount of money that there are horses that would put your daughter's rescue border collie to shame in any distance from 100m to the marathon.
A healthy weimaraner or rhodesian ridgeback would have no problem with an 8 second 100 and a sub 2 marathon.
I'm impressed by the 9.4 mentioned earlier, as Bolt was pushing 30mph and most mid-sized dogs couldn't hit that speed. However, border collies may be on the small side to hold a 4:48 pace for 26 miles.
In my town, joint owner-dog races are springing up all over. We'll have 4 this year, after 1 started 4 years ago and a second 3 years ago. The winning times haven't been anything to write home about, but participation looks strong.
Is bringing Fido along for a run catching on with any serious runners?
Horses can carry weight all day long at a pedestrian pace, but they actually aren't that good at speed endurance for their size.
Here is an annual 22 mile man vs. horse race in England.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon
The horse usually wins, but the humans are pretty weak.
If this is any guide it is very doubtful a horse could do a 2:04 marathon.
gong show wrote:
ARE. YOU. SERIOUS?
I just posted that wolves have been witnessed at top speeds in excess of 45 mph... that's over 20 m/s... do the math.
I think you need to do better research. Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
The article you provide a link to starts off by stating: “Their legs are long, and they walk at about 4 miles (6.4 kilometers) per hour, but can reach speeds of 35 mph during a chase.” Then only two paragraphs later that same article contradicts itself by stating “They have been clocked at speeds of over 40 miles (64 kilometers) per hour for a distance of several miles.” So do wolves slow down to 35mph when they are chasing a prey? Your second article just lists 45mph. Neither article provides a link to any reference where the speed was clocked by someone knowledgeable and using scientific methods for determining speed (stop watch over a measured distance).
For all we know those speeds were first mentioned on the web by some hillbilly farmer who observed a wolf running about as fast as he thought his old rusted-out pickup truck could go – and other websites simply picked up on that. Saying a wolf can run 40mph for several miles, means someone was able to keep sight of a wolf running that fast in wolf terrain for several miles. That’s quite unlikely. Wolves usually don’t run several miles along the side a road or highway.
It appears that there are no reliable references to someone accurately clocking a wolf’s speed. Numbers on the internet range from 30-55mph, a huge spread. The only way a wolf is going to go 55mph is when jumping off a cliff.
But even if a wolf can briefly run 35mph or so, how much distance does the wolf need to run before reaching this top-end speed? Can this top-end speed be maintained for more that 20-30 meters? This very high top-end speed still does not come close to proving that a wolf has quick enough acceleration from a standing start to break 9.6 seconds at 100m. Perhaps a wolf can do this, but the website links you provided are far from convincing. I did my own Google search and couldn’t find anything else convincing either.
I do know that a few quick dog breeds can break 9.6 sec for 100m because it’s been timed. Large dogs don’t have the needed quick acceleration and sustained high speed to do this. I suspect the same may be true with the large grey (a.k.a. timber) wolf species. Perhaps the smaller red wolf can break 9.6 seconds, but does this species have endurance for a sub 2:04 marathon? It appears that there is no reliable speed/endurance research on any wolf species to determine if it can break both the men’s 100m and marathon world records.
I’m sure some wolves can break all men’s world records from 400m and up. Perhaps 200m as well. But can that endurance wolf also run sub 9.6 for 100m from a standing start? I'm far from convinced.
A Dog can't break the Mens World record in any distance,
Its a f***ing dog not a MAN
stupid asses
bolts got her wrote:
One Fast Doggie wrote:She ran 9.4 in the 100m,
But did she pull up at the end to celebrate?
Sorry, our dog is unable to thump her chest while running last part of a 100m. However we are training her to do Bolt's post race dance which he calls "The Sweep".
Usain, if you are reading this our dog would like to challange you head-to-head (or feet-to-paws) in a 100m race, location and time to be your choice. You probably have higher top end speed, but this dog will beat you out of the blocks and build up an insurmountable lead over the first 40m.
A ways back in this post one fella said to run a marathon with a dog and have special breaks for the dog.....WHY? My foxhounds can run 12 hours at a speed a man can't run and through briars, woods etc. They put out for they have been bred for speed and mainly endurance and after a twelve to fourteen hour chase or chases they are so beat up that they can barely walk to the kennel when we get them home and then they are stove up for three days, pads cut up,scratches and cuts, and just plain gutted is what we call it.They look like their going to die so we say gutted like gut shot.
These foxhounds have been bred like this since the 1850's in America and before that thousands of years in Europe.
I don't know much about Husky sled dogs but it seems they would need more strength plus endurance to pull the weight of the sled. I bet the foxhound breeds have just as high a V02max as this breed if not higher but of course each dog is like each person there will be some variation.
I hunted rabbits with beagles for ten years and would have to chase after them at times and could keep up on foot as we were hunting. Now with my foxhounds and i been running now for three years I can't keep up with the chase on foot. I can start running --when i hear the pack coming by--and run wide open down a dirt road after them and they will be out of hearing in two minutes or less depending on the terrain. And this could be hour ten of the chase and it would be the same way. I like my hounds.....
Coyote's are pretty durn fast... I'll bet they're faster than wolves over short distances, though maybe the wolves would catch 'em after a few hours.
I've seen alot of coyotes getting chased by alot of strong, healthy sheepdogs in their primes (collies, maremmas, akbashes, german shepherds, etc.), and the coyotes put the dogs to shame every time.
1. Adrenline of the case and kill pretty much alow the dog to keep going until death if it has to.
2. Huskies work in groups so if you needed a marathon running Husky you'd have to pick the lead dog.
3. Could you keep a dog alive running a marathon on the street in over 70F heat?
I don't know about your marathons but The New York City Marathon doesn't have a lot of trees.
I repeat - A healthy weimaraner or rhodesian ridgeback would have no problem with an 8 second 100 and a sub 2 marathon.
Both of these dogs can hit a speed faster than any man, including Usain Bolt, and they hit top speed after just a few strides.
Moreover, Bicycling magazine had an article on which dogs would be the best *cycling* companions, and they nominated the weimaraner as the top candidate because it can run/trot 15mph for hours on end.
Heat is a limiting constraint, as is footwear assuming this were done on pavement.
German Shorthaired Pointer
yes, GSPs are pretty much interchangeable with Weims, as would be an extra-large Vizsla
My dog, Usain Bark, can!
The border collies I've known are much like competitive distance runners: they become absolutely insane if you don't let them get their run in. I had a girlfriend in Queens who had a poor Border Collie in her fenced-in backyard. It slobbered, with wild eyes. It had a smelly plastic ball that it nosed from one end of the yard to the other and back. A thousand times. It was tireless, manic, unhappy. It missed Yosemite, where she'd been stationed before she and dog came east.
So yes: to the original poster: I'm sure you're right. Border collies are insane. If any breed can do what you're claiming, it's border collies.
I bet Teg's dog would set the 10k record with no problem...if he actually ran the 10k.
huh.... according to this, greyhounds are the second-fastest land animals after cheetahs. I knew they were fast, didn't know they were THAT fast... neat-o.
Cheetahs can't hold that speed as long as you'd want them to though.
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