Running Times Podcast on Minimalism

Did you manage to capitalize on the charity and get into the Trials?

I've been running in flats (T3s-5 and the adizero line) for the last five years or so - actually started w/ the adidas Cubato. After over 20 years of running halfway competitively, w/ the occasional injury, my years in flats have been injury-free. However, since I always felt great and ran well, I gradually stopped my stretching - after all, I wasn't injured anymore. Needless to say, this achilles insertional thing got me now; so, here I am looking for an elevated, posted flat/trainer to help me out. But, I can't blame my years in flats for this - it's my own negligence.

This subject has been beaten to death on the board.

Minimalism will not make you faster, but in some certain cases it will make you stronger and less injury prone, thus allowing a person to increase the quantity and quality of training and produce better results.

The improved times are not a direct result of the shoes, they're a result of the training allowed by the shoes.

It's not for everyone. I'm still not sure why people try to push it. I liken some of them to the televangelists types.

Who says I didn't? If it's put on here it's still public consumption. Do you get that yet?

Is your ad hominem comment supposed to have a point relevant to the discussion? 2:45 is a hobby runner, she is not a pro.

HRE wrote:

Did you manage to capitalize on the charity and get into the Trials?

exactly wrote:

This subject has been beaten to death on the board.

Minimalism will not make you faster, but in some certain cases it will make you stronger and less injury prone, thus allowing a person to increase the quantity and quality of training and produce better results.

The improved times are not a direct result of the shoes, they're a result of the training allowed by the shoes.

It's not for everyone. I'm still not sure why people try to push it. I liken some of them to the televangelists types.

Halleluia! Can I get a witness? Jump, sing, dance, shuck and jive!

Yes. It is relevant. I'm guessing she's closer to being a pro than you are. So I'd bet that her opinions here might, by your standards, be worth more than yours.

So I'll take your non-answer for a "no" then?

Next thing you know they'll be speaking in tongues.

ALQOISJIIQODA WOIERKDIS QWEKDIISLW!

Or let's do it this way. Jaguar's a hobby runner. So what? I think there were about 130 men in the last OT marathon and maybe 150-160 in the women's trial. How many of those 280 or so runners do you reckon make their living from the sport?

I'd guess that you might have at most a couple dozen of each gender. So our most competitive marathons have their fields filled overwhelmingly with what you call "hobby runners."

How many people who post here at LR do you reckon make or once made their living from running? Again, I'd think you might have at absolute most a couple of dozen.

Now I don't really see why equipment that works for hobby runners wouldn't work for pros and vice versa. But if there were some difference here, I'd think that what works for the hobby runner would be of more interest to most people who come here than what works for pros.

Guess away, fool. Non-pros are hobbyists, no matter how close or far they are to "pro" status. You don't know a thing about my "standards," you're simply making foolish assumptions (still). You'll take my "non-answer" as an indication that your question is beneath me, but only if you're smart.

The point she was attempting to refute was that the concept is embraced "mostly" by hobbyists. Even if she doesn't consider herself a hobbyist, and even if both you and I agree with her, that still doesn't refute the point that 99%+ of pros aren't following a minimalist doctrine like what's so often laid out here. It's rather obvious that you wouldn't "really see why equipment that works for hobby runners wouldn't work for pros," but just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it is any less true. Whether it's of interest to hobby runners is beside the point.

No guessing here, you're the fool. Posters like you make me wish that we all had to post with our real names. I'm out of this post. I'd rather go study.

Ok. So exactly what IS the point?

HRE,

Don't worry about it; the guy's an asshole. All the reasonable statements you could make about jag being among the top 150 female marathoners in the country, training full time while maintaining her studies and normal employment, her successes at various races of varying distances, etc won't do a damn thing to change his opinion.

I'm sure she appreciates your posts, though, they (like most sensible ideas on this board) get drowned out in a sea of shit.

Thanks. Actually, I think I'm mostly trying to show some appreciation for someone who qualifies for the Trials and also takes some time to come here and try to be helpful now and again.

I was only having fun. You people, especially Englestock, make it too easy sometimes. I'll leave it alone now.

Histology :( Rock on HRE and the real mobile9. Still I wish I could have learned more from this post before everyone started attacking you. I doubt that guy can beat Jag.

HRE wrote:

Ok. So exactly what IS the point?

That "minimalism is mostly for hobbyists" hasn't been refuted.

And "1500" go boohoo somewhere else, you're as much a part of the problem on this board as anyone else is.

, indeed.