Q for Malmo and 2x per day running

Malmo, despite the bashing I knew this thread will receive, this is a serious question.

I think you should leave him alone

At least he isn't posting about how he lost his virginity

Anyone can advise an Ethiopian, but how do you make a normal person faster

It’s like teacher’s wanting to teach only the smart kids

Hi, I just bumped Malmo's thread on how to structure a high mileage week. While the thread focuses on high mileage and Summer of Malmo issues, the principles found within can be helpful across a wide range of talent levels, provided the desire to improve is still there. Good luck.

So let's get this straight: you don't really like to train, your dedication no further than 25 mpw, but you expect free coaching from a world class runner.

OK, nothing wrong with aiming high.

But maybe you can explain why so many of your ilk, after someone has said "X is good training for every runner", feel it necessary to question "but should *I* also do X?" Do you figure you're like a totally different species from all other runners? Or you just weren't sure you heard it right the first time? Seriously, I'm curious.

neither pre nor pri wrote:

So let's get this straight: you don't really like to train, your dedication no further than 25 mpw, but you expect free coaching from a world class runner.

OK, nothing wrong with aiming high.

But maybe you can explain why so many of your ilk, after someone has said "X is good training for every runner", feel it necessary to question "but should *I* also do X?" Do you figure you're like a totally different species from all other runners? Or you just weren't sure you heard it right the first time? Seriously, I'm curious.

I didn't see where he said it's good for "every runner."

For starters, this is a high mileage board. I don't know if his advice is just for high mileage or not. I've read other places where people doing my sort of mileage shouldn't run twice a day.

I'd rather hear it straight from someone who knows what works and doesn't have an agenda of selling books, running plans or online training.

Yeah, a world class, former record holder is being asked for advice. From what I've seen, Malmo freely offers advice. I guess I shouldn't take advantage of that, because I'm of a certain "ilk."

Now that you know what this thread is about, you can go find something else to do since it's not for you and those of your ilk.

Though he was kind of a dick about it, I have to agree with neither pre nor pri's basic point.

You already know malmo's philosophy on doubles (even short ones), so why start another thread to ask about it again? Doubles will help. It's not rocket science - run more and you'll get faster.

Good luck.

For what it's worth Jack Daniels, the man proclaimed by "your ilk's" bible as the World's Best Running Coach, doesn't recommend doubles until about 50 miles/week.

In all seriousness, though, if you're actually serious about competing and getting faster at the 5k distance, 25 miles/week is woefully insufficient, unless you're a high school freshman. If you are, then that's fine, that's a decent volume for someone at that developmental stage. Otherwise, if you're not motivated to run for more than 40-45 min at a shot, you're not really motivated to get faster.

I'm very dedicated to the amount of running I do. I just don't like running longer than 5-6 miles. I can break it up and enjoy it. I'm just asking if it's something I should do.

Do you lift weights? Do you ever ask advice about it? You do???

Well, what's someone like you who isn't dedicated enough to put in 3-4 hours a day at the gym, eating like a horse, gaining 75 pounds of pure muscle and looking like Ronald Coleman doing asking about advice about lifting?

I guess I won't ever ask anyone advice about anything ever again unless I'm so dedicated I make it my life's pursuit.

This thread is for Malmo's advice. If you aren't Malmo, you can keep quiet.

Thanks.

i'm into weight lifting as much as i am into running

no, i've never spent 3-4 hours a day in the gym. the most i've spent is an hour. Usually, i do one or two 20-40 minute sessions in the gym a day instead of 1 long continuous session. that way, i can get more quality volume on my quality days. it works. same basic principle in running.

run more, achieve more. do the doubles ESPECIALLY if you dont want to do more than 5-6 miles at a time. (and especially if you dont want to spend 3-4 hours in the gym at a time)

Hey, you're the one asking what you should be doing, not me. Don't try set my limits.

Obvious trol but...

Just go ahead and wake up early and do your extra 2 mile run. Why ask Malmo?

Doing a 2 mile run certainly wont hurt you. jeeze

My Man wrote:

Do you lift weights? Do you ever ask advice about it? You do???

Well, what's someone like you who isn't dedicated enough to put in 3-4 hours a day at the gym, eating like a horse, gaining 75 pounds of pure muscle and looking like Ronald Coleman doing asking about advice about lifting?

I guess I won't ever ask anyone advice about anything ever again unless I'm so dedicated I make it my life's pursuit.

The difference is that running more than 25 mpw will make you a better runner. Lifting weights for 3-4 hours a day and gaining a shitload of weight will make a worse runner. A person who asks advice about weightlifting on this board is probably doing it to make himself a better runner. They're still dedicated, but they're dedicated to running and they don't want to do something that would hurt their running. You, on the other hand, who only does 25 mpw, don't sound like you're very dedicated to running. Just saying

If you run an easy extra 2 miles run a day on top of what you do already you will most probably improve. Probably not by as much as if you lengthened your existing runs but, nevertheless, if thats the way you want to do it, some improvement is likely.