That list of Virgin's senior season is really screwed up. Whoever did it converted some of the 2 miles to 3200 and not others.
Virgin had by far the best senior season ever for a 2 Miler, but converting 2 miles to 3200 with a 3.0 second factor in a non-systematic way is unfair.
Uh, dude...video proof here. I know a lot of people that saw the race too.
The Race:
Final Kick etc. only:
Why are we all arguing whether or not Chris Derrick is a Virgin or not? The kid has ran fast times, and there is plenty of time for the ladies in college.
Does anyone think Derrick could possibly take down Rupp's American junior 5k record(13:37)? It's 18 seconds faster than his 13:55, but there's still time left in the season.
I love johnny walker!
I think he still is.
video proofology wrote:
Uh, dude...video proof here. I know a lot of people that saw the race too.
The Race:
http://www.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?do=videos&pg=1&event_id=63&video_id=2457&folder_id=189&offset=13#videoFinal Kick etc. only:
http://www.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?do=videos&pg=1&event_id=63&video_id=2423&folder_id=189&offset=12#video
Nice try, but I know that by clicking on those links my computer will be infected by a hyper-virus. I'm wise to your ways. And you say you know a lot of people who saw that race? How do you know they weren't bribed my Dyestat to lie about that 13:55?
CV fan wrote:
That list of Virgin's senior season is really screwed up. Whoever did it converted some of the 2 miles to 3200 and not others.
Virgin had by far the best senior season ever for a 2 Miler, but converting 2 miles to 3200 with a 3.0 second factor in a non-systematic way is unfair.
No, you're the one who's screwed up. I converted all of Virgins 2 miles to 3200.
Historian wrote:
full mile and 2 mile!
4/07 8:50.4 2 mile & 4:17 relay leg
4/24 8:55.6 & 4:16.6 St Clair County meet
4/28 8:59.0 Granite City Invite
5/02 9:24.2 O'Falon Relays
5/03 4:27.9 & 2:02.1 Conference meet
5/05 8:46.6 & 4:11.8 relay Orphan Relays
5/15 8:54.0 Cahokia Invite
5/18 8:53.6 & 4:10.9 District
5/21 8:48.6 & 4:08.5 Meet of Champions
5/25 4:10.0 State meet heat
5/26 8:42.6 & 4:12.2 State finals
6/01 4:05.5 Top 10 meet
6/09 8:40.9 Intl Prep Invite
6/23 13:36.8 3 mile at Ntl Jr AAU
7/04 4:06.1 Freedom Mile (5th)
7/14 8:10.2 3000 for 3rd vs West German Jrs
7/20 8:16.0 3000 win vs Poland Jrs
7/28 13:58.2 5000 win vs USSR Jrs
Derrick ran 8.48.9 and 4.14.8 for 3200/1600
Conversioner wrote:
Here's what Derrick would have to do for 1600/3200 to equal Virgin.
4/07 8:47.4 & 4:15.5 relay leg
4/24 8:52.6 & 4:15.1 St Clair County meet
4/28 8:56.0 Granite City Invite
5/02 9:21.2 O'Falon Relays
5/03 4:26.4 & 2:01.4 Conference meet
5/05 8:43.6 & 4:10.3 relay Orphan Relays
5/15 8:51.0 Cahokia Invite
5/18 8:50.6 & 4:09.4 District
5/21 8:45.6 & 4:07.0 Meet of Champions
5/25 4:08.5 State meet heat
5/26 8:39.6 & 4:10.7 State finals
6/01 4:04.0 Top 10 meet
6/09 8:37.9 Intl Prep Invite
6/23 13:36.8 3 mile at Ntl Jr AAU
7/04 4:04.6 Freedom Mile (5th)
7/14 8:10.2 3000 for 3rd vs West German Jrs
7/20 8:16.0 3000 win vs Poland Jrs
7/28 13:58.2 5000 win vs USSR Jrs
And herewith is a thread demonstrating everything wrong with letsrun. I posted this because as a long-time fan of IL HS running, I thought Derrick's run in the Cohoon meet was worth noting; it's early in the season and he is running times that are among some of the best in IL history. Of the 47 posts preceding this one, maybe 4 of them actually have something on point to say; the rest are a combination of trollbait, trashing Derrick for not being Craig Virgin, or some unrelated idiocy. Sigh. The level of discourse here makes it not worth commenting at all. And having said that, there will still be a few jerks who will feel compelled to throw crap at my comment here.
Greenliner - I concur with your perspective.
One thing that many don't understand is how fast 8:48 is in the typically cold and windy weather found in Northern Illinois in mid-April. I am not sure what the conditions were this past weekend - but having run several sub 4:10 miles as a high schooler in Illinois (many, many years ago) - I was always amazed at how I could run 4:20 or so in windy cold weather - really hammering away - and then the next week - or two weeks - once early spring broke - would run 4:11 or so with less effort! Some of this may have been an ease up in training as the meets became more consequential - but still... I know this post sounds a bit speculative - but track in the upper Midwest is not like that in California - there are days when great efforts just don't produce great times. Again, query what the conditions were this past weekend - my guess is typically chilly - and I stand ready to be impressed by this young man's performance.
These last two posts are dead on. It's why I'm hardly ever on this board any more. If you want an intelligent discussion that's not laced with trolls and idiots, go to dyestat...
Sad but true. Dyestat, while generally a younger and less informed crowd, had discussions that are 10X the quality of the majority of letsrun posts.
If by quality you mean utterly and absolutely annoying, then I concur with your multiple.
Derrick most likely won't run the championships as he has mono.
http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/cs-25-pork-prep-trackmay25,1,830138.story
How disappointing, I was looking forward to see what times he pulled off, and maybe go for that 5k hs record early summer. So it goes.
He will not run the rest of the season. This is indeed a shame. The state meet 3200 race was just mediocre, really, with a winning time of 9.01. I think Kevin Havel, who won, would have certainly gone under 9 with Derrick to drag him along. I understand that both Derrick and Havel are going to Stanford.