are Nike Shox just gimmick?

i have never seen a serious runner in shox... not to say there are not any.

from what i have been told from a guy who owns a large running store in the dfw area is that shox are all for the look. they also make the shoe much heavier... it seems as though nike is being a hypocrite by creating the frees and advertising light shoes while also creating shox which ive been told are really heavy.

I see people walking around in them, but I can't recall seeing anyone run in them, even very casual joggers.

brooks wrote:

... it seems as though nike is being a hypocrite by creating the frees and advertising light shoes while also creating shox which ive been told are really heavy.

It's not being hypocritical at all. Are breweries being hypocrital by selling light beers as well as regular (i.e. "heavy") beers. Of course not! Nike is simply providing items that people want, whether they are light or not.

I wouldn't run in them simply because they are so damn heavy and bulky. I can't imagine a serious runner training in those things.

does the same hold true for the Air Max 360's and 180's? they seem pretty over - engineered

No. The 360 is an excellent shoe. It's a lot more shoe than I would use, but it's a great neutral trainer.

the shox and 180, both have significantly elevated heals compared to the toe box, this throws off the natural alignment of your ankles and knees, which especially when the added impact of running is thrown in, can be very bad. I would definitely advise against running in them. The 360 is also a load of crap too.

runnerdi7 wrote:

the shox and 180, both have significantly elevated heals

"heels"

Well, they are better than running in four-inch heels. But only slightly.

Nike Shox = Nike LDV1000 of years ago?

Yes, I'm old.

Nike LDV1000? wrote:

Nike Shox = Nike LDV1000 of years ago?

Yes, I'm old.

Too old to realize you could answer this yourself in seconds by using google, as well.

I'm sure if your foot was designed to run on a cushion of air or springs we would have been born with them. Overcushioned shoes will lead to more injuries than undercushioned shoes. Your foot is designed a certain way, along with your stride, to transfer impact forces. Running on a pillow screws up the biomechanics. You'll be running up and down instead of forward.

Alan

You're an *sshole. This is not what was meant. This post was meant to compare the gimmick of a shoe that is the Shox to the gimmick of a shoe that was the LDV1000.

Google is your friend wrote:

Nike LDV1000? wrote:

Nike Shox = Nike LDV1000 of years ago?

Yes, I'm old.

Too old to realize you could answer this yourself in seconds by using google, as well.

look, you chumps... there are two shoes; the LDV and the LD1000. There is no such shoe as the LDV1000. the LD1000 had an outrageous heel flare, even by standards back in the day. It didn't last long. The LDV evolved from the LD1000 and was a popular shoe. Compare shox to the LD1000, if you must. Compare the Equalon to the LDV.

In addition to being hell on the knees, the LD 1000 would take chunks out of your calves with that ridiculous heel flare.

The LDV, as I recall, was an ok shoe for its time.

Runningart2004 wrote:

I'm sure if your foot was designed to run on a cushion of air or springs we would have been born with them. Overcushioned shoes will lead to more injuries than undercushioned shoes. Your foot is designed a certain way, along with your stride, to transfer impact forces. Running on a pillow screws up the biomechanics. You'll be running up and down instead of forward.

Alan

And I'm pretty sure that our feet weren't designed to run on a lot of the hard surfaces we encounter nowadays. You say that overcushioned shoes lead to more injuries than undercushioned. That may be true for you, but for me and a lot of other people, it's not the case. I wish I had the option of running on wood chip paths and such, but I've got to deal with hard pavement and 50 year old knees.

they had a trial going on for the new Shox (w Air in the forefoot) and the feedback wasn't good from a group of casual runners..

its a gym shoe, women feel its stiffer on things like the elliptical and use it for that purpose...I'd say the large majority of people I've seen with them have been women..

mighty wind wrote:

I see people walking around in them, but I can't recall seeing anyone run in them, even very casual joggers.

Tons of the middle schoolers at my daughter's track meet were wearing them Tuesday.

Tobin you are a true idiot!! You are always posting BS on here, and answer me this why don't you race outside of Louisville? If you are the guy you say you are and have lofty goals for the trials, etc, why not move and run for aan established elite develoment team like the Invaders?