A friend and I were talking about the 4xmile and started discussing two questions that neither of us knew the answer.
1. How many college teams have had 4 guys who could run under 4 minutes for the mile at the same time?
2. What is the most sub-4 milers that one collegiate team has had at the same time?
i'm going to have to say the answer to #1 is 0
I would say Oregon in the early 70s or villanova or UTEP
jim hill, billy mcchesney, rudy chapa, ken martin
weren't willis, brannen, woods, and ellerton sub 4 at the same time. or has ellerton not broken 4 yet and woods not at that time?? not sure but i thought some good programs have had 3-4 sub 4 milers at the same time.
At Mount St. Mary's in the mid to late 1980s they had three runners who could go sub 4. Charles and Kip Cheruiyot and Peter Rono.
arkansas would have to be considered.
wisco and oregon right now have to be close?
Bethke 3:59
Bolas 3:59
Miller 4:01
Gasper 4:01
Centro 4:00.1
Acosta 3:58
Mcgrath 4:00.1
4th?
Jennings Riley Stember Sage at stanford. Sage has the freshman record of 3:39
Mid 90's g'town? Downin, Obrien, Sivieri, ?
bharv wrote:
wisco and oregon right now have to be close?
Bethke 3:59
Bolas 3:59
Miller 4:01
Gasper 4:01
Centro 4:00.1
Acosta 3:58
Mcgrath 4:00.1
4th?
? will be andy wheating when he gets in a fast mile
stanford- lunn, jennings, reliey and stember!
Michigan had Willis, Brannen, Ellerton and Woods all under 4 during the same time in school. Willis had 3:56 indoors, Brannen was 3:55 indoors, Ellerton 3:58 outdoors, Woods, 3:57 both indoors and outdoors. Their senior year they tried to break 16 minutes for the 4x1 mile and ran 16:04 (splits 4:05.9 ellerton, 4:03.0 woods, 3:56.2 willis, 3:59.4 brannen). This was after a 9:22 DMR the night before.
bucks wrote:
Michigan had Willis, Brannen, Ellerton and Woods all under 4 during the same time in school. Willis had 3:56 indoors, Brannen was 3:55 indoors, Ellerton 3:58 outdoors, Woods, 3:57 both indoors and outdoors. Their senior year they tried to break 16 minutes for the 4x1 mile and ran 16:04 (splits 4:05.9 ellerton, 4:03.0 woods, 3:56.2 willis, 3:59.4 brannen). This was after a 9:22 DMR the night before.
I don't think Woods broke 4:00 until his soph year at Michigan, his 3:42 in HS notwithstanding.
Arkansas. Practically every year.
off the top wrote:
Jennings Riley Stember Sage at stanford. Sage has the freshman record of 3:39
Mid 90's g'town? Downin, Obrien, Sivieri, ?
Stanford might have had 5 in that era with Maas running 3:40 or so as well.
Exactly, he ran 3:57 after his freshman year at the Pan Am Juniors. He also ran 3:57 indoors during his sophomore year. This is the same year that they went for the 4xmile record and try to break 16 minutes.
Coghlan, Paige, Belger, Kane (plus Childs)
Coghlan, Hartnett, Belger, Schappert (plus Grogan)
Liquori, Patrick, Murphy, Mason (plus Buerkle)
texas will be close this year....they are the hotness right now!!
manzano - 3:58 mile (indoor '07)
morse - 4:00.41 mile (indoor '08)
miller - 4:00.50 mile (indoor '08)
stanley - 3:41.82 1500 (outdoor '07)
WATCH OUT!
umm.. wrote:
Arkansas. Practically every year.
Could you proove it? They are freakin good, but I would like to see some names, times, and the year or whatever.
I agree with the UT post.
the advocate wrote:
off the top wrote:Jennings Riley Stember Sage at stanford. Sage has the freshman record of 3:39
Mid 90's g'town? Downin, Obrien, Sivieri, ?
Stanford might have had 5 in that era with Maas running 3:40 or so as well.
So Maas maybe, lunn for sure, didnt andy powell run 3:40 as a frosh? that is 7.