Who is this guy trying to kid?
"Temu said his dad, Maftali Temu of Kenya, won the 10,000-meter run and the gold medal during the 1968 Olym-pics in Mexico and took second in the 5,000-meter run and placed ninth in the marathon."
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/sports/archive/sports_6325146.shtml
I believe you are mistaken, Temu did in fact win the gold in 1968.
Are you saying he's not Temu's kid, or something else he's fudging?
Temu won the 10000m, beating out Ethiopia's Mamo Wolde in the final 100 meters to become Kenya's first Olympic gold medalist. He also ran in the marathon at the end of the games, but did not medal. Mamo Wolse of Ethiopia won the marathon, making three consecutive Olympic marathons won by an Ethiopian.
Kip Keino of Kenya placed a close second to Mohammed Ghammoudi of Tunisia in the 5000m. Kip Keino also had run in the 10000m early in the week, but dropped out of the race with a few laps to go, because of stomach pains. Keino would later beat out Jim Ryun to win the 1500m gold medal.
liar wrote:
Who is this guy trying to kid?
"Temu said his dad, Maftali Temu of Kenya, won the 10,000-meter run and the gold medal during the 1968 Olym-pics in Mexico and took second in the 5,000-meter run and placed ninth in the marathon."
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/sports/archive/sports_6325146.shtml
Why write in a question like this when youn can easily look it up yourself? Are you really that lazy?
liar wrote:
Who is this guy trying to kid?
"Temu said his dad, Maftali Temu of Kenya, won the 10,000-meter run and the gold medal during the 1968 Olym-pics in Mexico and took second in the 5,000-meter run and placed ninth in the marathon."
http://www.wisinfo.com/postcrescent/sports/archive/sports_6325146.shtml
Must be a real fan to not either know who Neftali Temu is or have enough interest to look it up.
I had an opportunity to spend time with Vincent when he arrived in the US last year. His coach e-mailed me from Kenya and asked me to find some races for him. He is from the poor Kisii region. The guy has an interesting story. He was doing janitor work at the national track stadium in Nairobi hoping to find away to the US. The coach bought him a ticket and he has the difficult task of living up to his fathers name.
The whole thread is here because of a mystery. Why has Naftali Temu's name never been mentioned in the past? Why did Kip Keino get all the publicity? Maybe because he is a Kalenjin. I did not recognize the name when Vincent arrived at my house. The Duke anthropology library has a book on the history of Kenyan running and Naftali is certainly celebrated by the President of Kenya and his country. The generation of running journalists before me let that guy slip through the cracks.
Of course Temu wasn't ignored. Keino simply ran in more Olympiads(64-72)and raced much more internationally. There was a picture of Temu and Keino at the Kenyan trials in the National Geographic before the '68 Olympics. Jipcho, Temu,and Amos Biwott were prominent names at the time. Jipcho and Keino also had the American rivalry in their favour for long time popularity.
Temu was also the '66 Commonwealth Games Champion over 6 miles. A famous quote of his when people said Ron Clarke should have been the winner in Mexico but for the altitude. "I beat this same Clarke they are talking about in Kingston and tell me were there mountains in Jamaica?"
The best book for refreshing the stories on guys you thought might be unappreciated is "The Olympians" by Sebastian Coe. Check it out.
Randymayes, duuuuude, get out of that library and get some real life experience. We told you that once before didn't we? Nobody let Temu "slip through the cracks", as you say. Any student of the sport knows him. Study hard, but please, no more uncovering the obvious. Don't become a one-trick pony.
We know, Kenyans have won a lot of Olympic medals. We figured that out all by ourselves.
Actually they haven't won a lot of Olympic medals. How does one get this chat board police position that you have. Does it require a high score on a whining exam? Most of the Kenyan runners in Durham, NC have never heard of Naftali Temu.
I'm presenting my research to a panel of scholars at DUKE in November. I have been encouraged to spend time in the library. It seems to be where the good info is on expensive databases. Unfortunately, I will not be able to use your advice nor did I ask for it.
Kenyan Olympic Medalists (Male)
400m
1972 Bronze Julius Sang
1992 Bronze Samson Kitur
800m
1964 Bronze Wilson Kiprugut
1968 Silver Wilson Kiprugut
1972 Bronze Mike Boit
1988 Gold Paul Ereng
1992 Gold William Tanui
Silver Nixon Kiprotich
1996 Bronze Fred Onyancha
1500m
1968 Gold Kip Keino
1972 Silver Kip Keino
1988 Gold Peter Rono
1996 Bronze Stephen Kipkorir
2000 Gold Noah Ngeny
2000 Bronze Bernard Lagat
3000m SC
1968 Gold Amos Biwott
Silver Ben Kogo
1972 Gold Kip Keino
Silver Ben Jipcho
1984 Gold Julius Korir
1988 Gold Julius Kariuki
Silver Peter Koech
1992 Gold Matthew Birir
Silver Patrick Sang
Bronze William Mutwol
1996 Gold Joseph Keter
Silver Moses Kiptanui
2000 Gold Reuben Kosgei
Silver Wilson Boit Kipketer
5000m
1968 Silver Kip Keino
Bronze Naftali Temu
1988 Gold John Ngugi
1992 Silver Paul Bitok
1996 Silver Paul Bitok
10,000m
1968 Gold Naftali Temu
1984 Bronze Mike Musyoki
1988 Bronze Kipkemboi Kimeli
1992 Silver Richard Chelimo
1996 Silver Paul Tergat
2000 Silver Paul Tergat
Marathon
1988 Silver Douglas Wakiihuri
1996 Bronze Eric Wainaina
2000 Silver Eric Wainaina
4x400mR
1968 Silver
1972 Gold
15 Gold Medals
18 Silver Medals
12 Bronze Medals
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45 Olympic medals between 400m and the marathon. Discounting the boycotts of 1976 and 1980, Kenya averages between 5 and 6 medals per Olympics, at these distances.
The quantity of medals is not reflective of their talent, espically in the marathon. Stastically their medal count is low ask Paul Tergat.
Tergat failed statistics.
Randy apparently did, too.
I am so glad we have your bleeding heart looking out for these underappreciated kenyan athletes. Who else would help them find their prize money races all the while eluding the IRS and INS.
Randy, don't get me wrong, I'll all for your studies ,however obtuse they may be, and I'm sure you've got a fine panel of scholars there at Duke to guide you. But when it comes to rigorous peer review and fact checking, our yawns here are faster and more accurate than your expensive databases in Durham.
Good luck, keep up the good work, and when you uncover a little more than "the sky is blue" tell us - we're all ears.
Malmo-
Somehow you seem to know a lot about my study. Paul Tergat and Elly Rono are the only runners that have read my research papers. How do you know so much about what I'm doing? What I have given you guys is misinformation. It is spin upside your head. It keeps the adversaries guessing and edgy. PR 101. Weldon seems to understand the concept. Look at his headlines today. You guys are baby harp seals with dents in your head.
randymayes wrote:
The whole thread is here because of a mystery. Why has Naftali Temu's name never been mentioned in the past? Why did Kip Keino get all the publicity? Maybe because he is a Kalenjin.
I'll throw out Jim Ryun as the reason Keino got all the pub.
He became an advesary to an American. Works all the time.
1968 and the Mexico Olympics at altitude were magic as far as awareness of Kenyan runners, altitude studies, and sports science in general. The rivalry maybe part of the answer. Leakey studied the Kikuyu, Manners the Kalenjin, no one has really spent much time with the Kisii. I may be going to Kenya in December, and I will spend some time with Naftali and ask him where he has been hiding.