Bowl Picks

stop it! wrote:

Funny that you write that. I read on another thread where someone pointed out that Big 10 v. SEC last year was 2-1 I think and the response was "The title game is what counts!".

I need to find that post....

Let me clue you in and save you some time. I was an ardent defender of OSU in the regular season last year because I believed they had earned the right to play for the championship in going undefeated and beating Texas and Michigan. I also believed that the SEC was unproven, particularly Florida, as they had no significant nonconference victories and had a lot of close calls in the SEC through the year, eerily similar to LSU this year. I've conceded that over and over again. If the circumstances were identical, my view would be the same. However, after Michigan and OSU went down in flames, it was obvious that the Big Ten was vastly overrated. That was my argument anyway. Perhaps they are vastly underrated this year as the SEC was last year. As for the Big Ten vs. the SEC, I really couldn't give a shit about either conference, so bowl records against one another, particulary bowl records that don't take into account the difference in seeding per conference (e.g. SEC #4 losing to Big Ten #2) or whther or not the spread was covered are meaningless stats.

I will tell you this. If OSU wins convincingly over LSU AND Illinois upends USC, then I will be persuaded toward the Big Ten again. But I think the result will be the same as last year for the Big Ten, with the top two teams losing, Michigan getting blown out by Florida, and Wisconsin being in a tight game against what I really consider to be the SEC's #4 team right now in Tennessee. And if LSU wins, well, again, I bleieve they will be one of four teams that should playoff, IF we are really trying to find out who the best team is, not just the BCS champ.

As for these intimations toward my lack of objectivity, I am a Big 12 North fan above all else, but I was the first to tell you just how overrated KU was and how they would go down in flames, this despite the fact that they were the top of the North until the last game. Consider this though. If the Big 12 didn't have a conference championship game, if KU's loss to MU came in the penultimate game of the season rather than the last game, and if KU ended up having the best record in the Big 12, this same KU team who supposedly had the second best defense in the nation behind OSU before it was lit up by MU, this same KU team that didn't play anyone else credible all season and had many lopsided victories, would you all be arguing that they should be playing for the national title as you are OSU? I think not, at least not the informed fan who knew just how overrated they were.

Dude, not every post talking about college football is directed to you. Point out where I was talking to you? I said funny that you write that because SOMEONE pointed out...I was not talking to YOU.I know you think you are the resident college football expert but sometimes not every conversation involves you and your view point.

stop it! wrote:

Dude, not every post talking about college football is directed to you. Point out where I was talking to you?

I said funny that you write that because SOMEONE pointed out...I was not talking to YOU.

I know you think you are the resident college football expert but sometimes not every conversation involves you and your view point.

Fair enough. Oh, and I am definitely NOT the resident expert.

big 10 fan wrote:

and sagarin's argument is that 10-1 wisconsin barely beat a 4 loss arkansas team (played in sec title game) not really sure how psu beat tennessee. guess that was a fluke. if michigan, wisconsin and psu win, then maybe ohio state really had some good wins during the regular season? it's just that the big ten beat up on each other. will the big ten bashers come back and say they were wrong if the big 10 has a good bowl season? maybe at least say they're on the same planet as the sec?

i always will agree about a playoff as opposed to mindless arguments about who's better than who.

Tennessee sucks in big games, always has. I would pick Wisconsin to beat them this year in a close game. And I think Penn State has a great shot to beat a tattered Texas A&M team, a team that is basically coachless, but that game is a coin flip. As for Purdue and Michigan State and Indiana, I don't really care because they aren't playing anyone. However, yes, I do think OSU, Illinois, and Michigan will all lose. If OSU wins, but nobody else in the top four or five does, well, then, that doesn't really tell us much. Totally agree on the playoff sentiment.

mattk wrote:

rippy cripple...you would be lucky for one of those scenarios to play out...

Are you saying neither Ben Mauk or Colt Brennan will throw a td pass in their respective bowl games?? I find that as unlikely to happen as Ohio State getting beat by the pussykitties in the championship game. As stated, Illinois would be an upset if they win.

Statistics:

Ohio State is 0-8 vs the SEC in bowl games.

The SEC is 9-4 in BCS games, the Pac-10 is 9-7, and everyone else has losing records.

The SEC is 3-0 in BSC championship games.

Something to think about.

* wrote:

Statistics:

Ohio State is 0-8 vs the SEC in bowl games.

The SEC is 9-4 in BCS games, the Pac-10 is 9-7, and everyone else has losing records.

The SEC is 3-0 in BSC championship games.

Something to think about.

Blah, Blah, Blah

So the Buckeyes will be 1-8. What's the big deal?