bob the builder wrote:
your captain is taking things way too seriously and doesn't realize that you have to have fun to run fast... bitch....
If by "have fun" you mean get drunk regularly, then no, you're incorrect. I was on a podium team that had a no-drinking rule during XC season.
However, I did always think it was kind of a lame rule, despite having actually followed it for 4 years. There are better ways to promote unity.
re you guys drinking alot? My old team (a top 10 D1 team)wouldgo out for drinks usually on saturday night after races but only have a few. Noone ever saw a problem with it and helped us. People never really went over the top except after conference and nationals.
Newsflash: drinking in moderation doesn't negatively effect running. Your captain is a douche.
Drink Alone wrote: ARTIST: George Thorogood and the Destroyers
TITLE: I Drink Alone
Heh, back in high school 23 years ago some friends and I drove a couple hours downstate to the Illinois state fair to see Thorogood perform this & other ditties. We assuredly weren't drinking alone.
Weirdest thing. The porta-potty lines were ridiculous so many dudes went to piss under the bleachers. Some guy relieving himself next to me looks over and declares "hey, you're !" He was nobody I recognized, not from my school, no freaking idea how this random guy identified me. Which was a little disconcerting to process with my dongle hanging out and all. Remains a mystery to this day.
The other funny thing was, we'd tried to see ol' George the day before in Chicago but turned out we had the wrong date. The crowd in the parking lot looked all wrong for Thorogood, so while walking from the car to the venue we asked someone to make sure.
"George Thorogood? You're joking?"
"No, man, that's who we're here to see. He's playing tonight, right?"
"No, he was last night. Tonight's Amy Grant."
No wonder mine was the only beat-to-shit brown 1973 Buick Century with orange shag carpeting in the shelf under the rear window and handcuffs dangling from the rear view mirror. Those were the days.
This sounds like a recipe for severe dehydration! Doesn\'t John Bingham say you should drink two quarts a day in addition to walking at all the water stops to make sure you get enough fluids? 4 weeks doesn\'t sound healthy at all.
Out of interest, is this purely something that's going on in the USA or other countries?
Anyway, drinking one beer is not going to sacrifice performance. I don't like the idea they're trying to control what you do and set blanket rules. If you're talking about nutrition rules, banning hamburgers, for example, or fast food, would help health for most people but it doesn't mean they should do it.
If it's the end of your season (as it is for most people, it seems, after conferences) then I think you should be free to enjoy a drink or two if you like. To ban even having some wine with a meal seems a bit big brotherish.
I don't think they should force these rules on people. People are old enough to make their own choices and decide how they handle their life. Outright banning something is bizarre and a bit obsessional - what's the difference between 0 or 3 drinks over a period of 5 weeks? Not much.
If people can't drink at that level and have to resort to an outright ban... you have to set a rule like that, that's more indicative of a problem.
As far as "getting drunk is fun, but it can affect your running performance. People who say it has no affect whatsoever are stupid or have never gotten drunk enough" - here's an idea - don't get that drunk!
wrong wrote:
You are a team. Now start acting like a team and follow the team policy.
Does that mean if the policy was you have to take steriods, you should have too? Its your body do what you want but realize what the concequences might be (probably the reason for the policy).
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If enough people on this team think that a no drinking policy is a problem, then the team itself has already set its own destiny.
Even at the age of 18, if you don't realize that drinking can in NO WAY improve your performance, then there is a problem.
If someone who can't even make a division 3 top 7 doesn't isn't doing everything in their power to do so, then there is a problem.
I am sure your school has plenty of social clubs like frats that can give you companionship with drinking as a theme. Do that.
Don't waste the time of your coach, or the team mates who respect our sport.
You are a toolbag. I always disliked kids like you. I don't mind if you don't drink. Thats cool. I respect that. But when you tout that you don't drink. Most of the guys at my alma mater (respected D1 program) would tell you to get a life. If there is something wrong with casual drinking I think you should post a memo to pretty much every D1 school.
There is nothing wrong with having two beers after a race on saturday night.
There is nothing wrong with having two beers after a race on saturday night.[/quote]
Nor is anything wrong with having 10 beers after a race on saturday night.
good times wrote:
Nor is anything wrong with having 10 beers after a race on saturday night.
Beat me to it. The cool thing is skinny distance runners can't drink a lot anyway. And you're young. So it's all good come Monday anyway.
I can't stand when xc teams put the no drinking policy down. no other sport ive heard of really does it. you're in college make your own choices and be smart, if you want to go to a party and have a few drinks that should be fine with your teammates.
That doesn't sound unreasonable. Deal with it.
as a varsity runner, i will make my own decision to not drink until my last race. I don't need everyone else to not drink. We will have a halloween party, I'm sure, because most of the team will be done, and I don't need everyone else to abstain from alcohol for me to not drink. I'm a big kid and i would guess your varsity guys are too, if they can't handle being one of 7 sober guys on a weekend, they have bigger problems... I think that's a dumb policy.
If you can not hold out on drinking until the seasons over or go to a party without drinking, then you have problems from my point of view. I ran in college and never drank a drop. I am a social drinker now, but never felt the need to drink when I was in college despite what my teammates did in between seasons. If its a team policy, rule, or pact, follow it and then go get drunk in December if you feel the need. You are an athlete!!!
Some day, you will have a boss and you will not agree with every policy he/she delivers. You will deal with it and go on. Some day you will sit at a board meeting and get outvoted, but you will remain on the board and keep functioning. Some day you will have a child, and you will not like every ridiculous classroom rule that your child will be subjected to, but you will still do all you can to support the school. Some day your child will be playing basketball and receive a bad call, and you will feel like throwing your shoe at the referee. You will not.
There is not a track/xc program in the world where every athlete is 100% pleased with every team policy. It's called life. Sometimes we have to give something up for the common good.
The captain's a good guy and his heart is in the right place. HOWEVER, drinking with this team has never been a problem in the past, and you're absolutely right that we can still have fun and support the team at the same time. Introducing this team-wide policy will do nothing but unnecessarily split the team at a time when solidarity is most important.
anotherdude wrote:
man, anyone who says there's anything wrong with wanting to drink when YOUR season is over is lame. If you don't make the top 7, and go drinking and your captain gets pissed or you have any consequences whatsoever, then your captain is a loser. You guys can still have fun and support the team at the same time....
my 2 cents
The captain's a good guy and his heart is in the right place. HOWEVER, drinking with this team has never been a problem in the past, and you're absolutely right that we can still have fun and support the team at the same time. Introducing this team-wide policy will do nothing but unnecessarily split the team at a time when solidarity is most important.
anotherdude wrote:
man, anyone who says there's anything wrong with wanting to drink when YOUR season is over is lame. If you don't make the top 7, and go drinking and your captain gets pissed or you have any consequences whatsoever, then your captain is a loser. You guys can still have fun and support the team at the same time....
my 2 cents