Dayton is by far the most impressive team I've come across in recent years with no officially sponsored track team. Keep in mind, many of these programs may not be "fully funded" so they may not be getting any where close to the aloted five full scholarships.
And I can name a couple others besides Loyola Maryland that have five guys at or very near low 25s to high 25s/low26s...
IUPUI only has cross country, however they are not that great of a team. They do oddly enough have one of the best tracks in the nation.
"Loyola College (Md) is currently ranked #14 in the Mid-Atlantic Region and there top 5 at the Navy Invitational (Louisville, Navy, American, Richmond, La Salle were there among others) went like this
Chris Heibell, 25:03
Terry Moran 25:41
Gian Caccia 25:43
Brian Parker 25:47
Keith Forlenza 26:46
I'd say they would have to be the best non track xc program in the country"
Hold your horses a little bit down there, and do your homework first
Jacksonville State University, in Alabama. Ranked 9th in the South Region.
Ryan Mckay 24.12
Marius Sava 24.36
Jeff Rhodes 24.50 range
George Kapkiai 25.20 range
David Ross 26.10 range
Are there any of these just XC teams ever made the nationals in the past 5-7 years?
"Loyola College (Md) is currently ranked #14 in the Mid-Atlantic Region and there top 5 at the Navy Invitational (Louisville, Navy, American, Richmond, La Salle were there among others) went like this
Chris Heibell, 25:03
Terry Moran 25:41
Gian Caccia 25:43
Brian Parker 25:47
Keith Forlenza 26:46
I'd say they would have to be the best non track xc program in the country"
Hold your horses a little bit down there, and do your homework first
Jacksonville State University, in Alabama. Ranked 9th in the South Region.
Ryan Mckay 24.12
Marius Sava 24.36
Jeff Rhodes 24.50 range
George Kapkiai 25.20 range
David Ross 26.10 range
Are there any of these just XC teams ever made the nationals in the past 5-7 years?
So a school sponsors track and field, but does not care about anything but distance. That seems very lazy.
What about Ohio University? They just had Track and Field cut last year. Which of the two mentioned teams are going to PreNationals?
What do Ohio U first 5 guys usually run in the 8k?
Hold your horses a little bit down there, and do your homework first
Jacksonville State University, in Alabama. Ranked 9th in the South Region.
Ryan Mckay 24.12
Marius Sava 24.36
Jeff Rhodes 24.50 range
George Kapkiai 25.20 range
David Ross 26.10 range
Are there any of these just XC teams ever made the nationals in the past 5-7 years?[/quote]
If I had to guess this one of the JSU guys talking, trying to get recognition. Next question are the 5 full scholarships going to your top 5 cause after that, you guys drop off drastically, hope noone has a bad day. Next point why would anyone choose to go to a school without track, and especially an awesome town like Jacksonville, Alabama (sarcasm) population all of 9000. Good job on bringing in the foreigners in the offseason coach.
Bradley in Peoria, Il.
Austin Peay State University
Birmingham-Southern College
Bowling Green State University
Bradley University
Canisius College
Centenary College (Louisiana)
College of Charleston (South Carolina)
Creighton University
Elon University
Fairfield University
Florida Atlantic University
George Washington University
Hofstra University
Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapol
Indiana University-Purdue University, Fort Wayne
Jacksonville State University
Jacksonville University
Longwood University
Loyola College (Maryland)
Marshall University
Mercer University
Murray State University
New Mexico State University
Niagara University
Nicholls State University
Ohio University
Pepperdine University
San Jose State University
Siena College
St. Bonaventure University
St. Mary's College of California
Stetson University
Tennessee Technological University
University of Central Florida
University of Dayton
University of Evansville
University of San Diego
University of Tennessee at Martin
University of Toledo
University of Wisconsin, Green Bay
Vanderbilt University
Does St. Louis have track and field?
SonOfaBeachaum wrote:
Bradley in Peoria, Il.
That would be incorrect. And SLU recently added a track team. Evansville has been discussing adding one.
Being the best of mediocre and non-competitive XC only teams is a low bar to aim for.
St. Louis hosted an invitational named the National Championship of XC Only Schools.
They have track now.
It doesn't take much to add track for distance runners.
If St. Louis can do it, the originator of the XC only National Championship, then any school can do it.
I knew SLU had a Track Club, or something like that. I was not aware of them having an actual Track team. You said they are hosting an Invitational...Do they have a home track to train or run on or are they using a local H/S or Wash Us track for this?
If I have to guess you are a silly hater-coach or athlete. Compared with most of competitive XC programs they have american kids that actually count points for them, and developed over time. If those are their real times, They can beat most of mid major programs in the country, including better and more famous univeristies that also have t & f .
Congrats JSU, blah.hater..suck it.
Mission Harrier wrote:
Being the best of mediocre and non-competitive XC only teams is a low bar to aim for.
No shit. But what is being discussed here is the best teams that have very few resources/recruiting power and still succeed to some degree. With such a debilitating handicap, that's the best bar some of these schools can aim for.
Mission Harrier wrote:
St. Louis hosted an invitational named the National Championship of XC Only Schools.
They have track now.
It doesn't take much to add track for distance runners.
If St. Louis can do it, the originator of the XC only National Championship, then any school can do it.
Well f*** man, you figured it out. Can I fly you in here so you can explain it to our AD/school president? I'm sure they'd agree with you. Thanks for your constructive contribution.
And like I said, I would be surprised if many of these schools have five full scholarships. Most are probably just there to meet NCAA sport sponsorship standards, so there's no way their school is going to bother fully funding them if they don't expect them to succeed in the first place. At our school we have 1.3 for XC only.
Pope t-bag, you're one angry elf, don't worry though, christmas is just around the corner
And this thread is officially killed...
wrong wrote:
So a school sponsors track and field, but does not care about anything but distance. That seems very lazy.
Or they just have their own unique priorities regarding what THEY do with THEIR OWN resources.