Tony Snow leaving White House job-says he wasn't making enough money

Everyone likes Tony Snow that's why he is so good at what he does.

He got a free pass on the need more more comment because of his illness. Of course he know what the pay was before. The real reason is either illness related or that he got tired of pedalling white house crap.

He is likeable, has our sympathy for having to deal with his illness, so we take the basically bs comment without question.

Yes, he's good.

When a person in the political arena says they're leaving their job for one reason, you know it has nothing to do with that reason.

What else is new. Another GOP cut and run Chickenhawk coward. The list goes on.

that's right, t-b-t. Hard to imagine that GWB will find anyone nearly as good who is willing to take the job.

All of the above, both facts and opinions are well said and I totally agree verbatim. Worth repeating so that is why I have commented here.

anyone willing to be the mouthpiece for our current schmuck-in-chief goes into the job knowing full well the load of crap he's going to be selling.

i can buy that the money wasn't good enough to justify it- but, i can't buy that he can't live on it. f*** him for complaining about a 6-fig income. just goes to show how our society has become resplendent with marie antionettes.

if he's sick, and that's the reason then he should just say so- i think just about anyone would begrudge him that. claiming a lack of income is horseshit and the guy should go do double duty in darfur for about 6 months.

that's right, t-b-t. Hard to imagine that GWB will find anyone nearly as good who is willing to take the job.

The NCAA p.r. guy should take the job, they need a real louse like, then maybe the NCAA will lift flowtrack from the barred list.

Ahh, nothing like getting called a moron out of the blue by an annonymous letsrunner who can\'t keep facts seperate from myth.

First off- as far as the number of uninsured being \"nowhere near the 47 million figure you and other...\" -I never but any numbers in my post, so how about you read a little bit before you start typing.

-What is the real number? The 47 million is reported by many sources, but I believe it\'s 47 million at any time in the past year, not all at one time, so you can debate that. Physicians for a national health plan has a lot of details on their website-

at least you\'ll have some actual facts.

-As far as your comment about the 12 million illegal immigrants being uninsured- actually not all are uninsured. Some get plans through work, some qualify for state plans for low income patients, but not all are uninsured. You can certainly argue that that is not right, but you\'re wrong if you think they are all automatically uninsured.

-I\'d love to see your source on the 38% of the uninsured that are over the median national income- sounds like bullshit to me, and I highly doubt you can find me something reliable on it. I sure can\'t find anything on it.

Finally, if you think this is not a crisis, think a little more about the overall problems in healthcare. If you think its fabulous that we spend twice as much per capita as other developed countries, but yet die younger, spend more of our lives in hospitals, and have more kids die as infants, then yes, theres no crisis. And yes, the fact that we\'re the only country with a large portion of our population uninsured has something to do with that. Most thinking people with knowledge of the field are a little more worried than you are, but hey, ignorance is bliss.

give a guy a break wrote:

He may have said his health was not an issue,but I think the reality is that Snow is dyeing of cancer. He is on constant chimo. I think he is trying to do the best he can to achieve financial security for his family before his time is up.

Anyone who would have a problem with this is either a moron or does not have a family.

he has not said that, to my knowledge, but i suspect that is what is really going on here.

dd wrote:

-I'd love to see your source on the 38% of the uninsured that are over the median national income- sounds like bullshit to me, and I highly doubt you can find me something reliable on it. I sure can't find anything on it.

Finally, if you think this is not a crisis, think a little more about the overall problems in healthcare. If you think its fabulous that we spend twice as much per capita as other developed countries, but yet die younger, spend more of our lives in hospitals, and have more kids die as infants, then yes, theres no crisis. And yes, the fact that we're the only country with a large portion of our population uninsured has something to do with that. Most thinking people with knowledge of the field are a little more worried than you are, but hey, ignorance is bliss.

Dear moron, it's not my job to do your fact finding for you. The most recent article I read addressing the issue was in IBD about a week ago, but there are several others. You proclaim yourself smart enough to do your own legwork.

There is a huge difference between an uninsured crises and a healthcare crisis, and it is not a symbiotic relationship as you would like to imply. Nor did I ever say there wasn't a healthcare problem in general in this country, speaking of reading what was actually written. The healthcare expenditure per GDP is yet another ruse (or per capita as you wish as another method to gauge) as it presumes we all grow up under the same conditions, consume the same food, incur the same amount of stress, etc, etc, as many of our industrialized counterparts which have been trotted out as a basis of comparison. Americans are sicker than their industrialized counterparts because they lead unhealthier lives in general. Just look at our children... now THAT is a crisis. Of course we will be spending more on diabetes meds, heart disease, joint replacements, ADD meds etc.

Frankly, because it is clear that you don't understand the gist of my premise, I would be fine to see some form of government tax credits to insure the LEGAL American citizens TRULY not capable of insuring themselves. It would be a mere fraction of the 47 million bandied about. That's a vastly different and better proposition than universal healthcare.

I am amazed we have gotten past 30 posts without anyone remarking on the loveliness of Dana Perrino.

commie wrote:

anyone willing to be the mouthpiece for our current schmuck-in-chief goes into the job knowing full well the load of crap he's going to be selling.

I am not sure this is true. I recently heard a piece on the NPR show To the Point, and I really cannot remember much about it, but a top-dog republican was appointed to the position that grants Bush his executive power, and literally resigned a few days later when he realized how crazy it was.

I think some of these politicians enjoy the idea of their political position, but when actually faced with it, prefer to remain more moderate.

I could be wrong about snow, but he sometimes seems to me that he empathizes more with the folks asking him questions. He has a much different presence than a true Chicken Hawk, I don't think he is sincere on the podium.

Maybe he was asked to resign.

[quote]dd wrote:

What is the real number? The 47 million is reported by many sources, but I believe it's 47 million at any time in the past year, not all at one time, so you can debate that. Physicians for a national health plan has a lot of details on their website-quote]

While 47 million uninsured may be a problem, a bigger problem is the 250 million who are insured at an average rate of over $12,000/year for a family and 4,500 for an individual.

I am self employed making over 100k in a little town in the midwest and I have no insurance. I consider myself self insured and plan accordingly. Not everyone who is considered uninsured wants to be insured and pay the astronomical payments.

168k isn't enough to live on if you spend like you make 268k. Remember, we spend a lot of money because we make a lot of money!!!

I am amazed we have gotten past 30 posts without anyone remarking on the loveliness of Dana Perrino.

pictures ? bun shots ?

Red, White, and Black wrote:

Tony Snow is probably leaving because he has to put up with a ton of shit, stress, and scrutiny directed at him from the misinformed imbeciles in the media and Congress at the very time that he is simply trying to survive and put his personal affairs in order.

Would this be the same "liberal media" that I've been hearing so much about these days?

Please explain!

I don't know anything about Tony Snow's personal finances or if his wife works.

My Wife and I combine for $225k and live in DC suburb. We have three children. We have a house in a safe neighborhood with neighbors "just like us." We're living a comfortable existence but private colleges will be a challenge and putting money away for retirement gets tougher as the children grow older and have more activities. Travel Hockey, anyone? Child care? Gasoline for two cars?

What I'm saying is that if I had a life-threatening scare and the chance to pop my income 10x immediately. I would do it. And I'd be honest why I'm doing it. It's not a hard decision. $168k does not go a long way in the suburbs of many big cities.

Suburban Dad wrote:

I don't know anything about Tony Snow's personal finances or if his wife works.

My Wife and I combine for $225k and live in DC suburb. We have three children. We have a house in a safe neighborhood with neighbors "just like us." We're living a comfortable existence but private colleges will be a challenge and putting money away for retirement gets tougher as the children grow older and have more activities. Travel Hockey, anyone? Child care? Gasoline for two cars?

What I'm saying is that if I had a life-threatening scare and the chance to pop my income 10x immediately. I would do it. And I'd be honest why I'm doing it. It's not a hard decision. $168k does not go a long way in the suburbs of many big cities.

1) Even in Washington DC, a family of four can do very well on $168,000 a year -- just need to prioritize. In Ohio, $168,000 is living large.

2) In Tony Snow's case, he was making a TON more money as a broadcast journalist, and I'm certain he had expenses that were matching his income (as most people do that). He said he had to borrow money to take the White House Press Secretary job.

I don't blame him one bit for leaving. I'm surprised more haven't left. Being part of that administration is not something I'd want to be doing.

Suburban Dad wrote:

I don't know anything about Tony Snow's personal finances or if his wife works.

My Wife and I combine for $225k and live in DC suburb. We have three children. We have a house in a safe neighborhood with neighbors "just like us." We're living a comfortable existence but private colleges will be a challenge and putting money away for retirement gets tougher as the children grow older and have more activities. Travel Hockey, anyone? Child care? Gasoline for two cars?

What I'm saying is that if I had a life-threatening scare and the chance to pop my income 10x immediately. I would do it. And I'd be honest why I'm doing it. It's not a hard decision. $168k does not go a long way in the suburbs of many big cities.

yeah, life's a bitch, ain't it?

Suburban Dad wrote:

I don't know anything about Tony Snow's personal finances or if his wife works.

My Wife and I combine for $225k and live in DC suburb. We have three children. We have a house in a safe neighborhood with neighbors "just like us." We're living a comfortable existence but private colleges will be a challenge and putting money away for retirement gets tougher as the children grow older and have more activities. Travel Hockey, anyone? Child care? Gasoline for two cars?

What I'm saying is that if I had a life-threatening scare and the chance to pop my income 10x immediately. I would do it. And I'd be honest why I'm doing it. It's not a hard decision. $168k does not go a long way in the suburbs of many big cities.

You don't manage your money well. (That's okay, neither do I.)

You don't need 2 cars. You live in a DC suburb, not the exurbs of Boise. If you really want to save money, get rid of both cars, sell the house, move into a DC slum, and with the money you save you can send your kids to the best private schools in the world (I assume they're going to some overfunded public school like Chevy Chase Bethesda).

You've got plenty of money to pay for all your kids' college educations, even if they're triplets. And if they are, and your quarter-million per annum doesn't cover it (fnarr!) you just fill out a form to show you're financially strapped and the kids get financial aid.

I have no idea what Travel Hockey is, but it does not sound like food, clothing or shelter to me, let alone health care or education.