If ESPY winner Dean Karnazes had a 5 mile lead on you, could you eventually catch up to him? If so, how long would it take?
If ESPY winner Dean Karnazes had a 5 mile lead on you, could you eventually catch up to him? If so, how long would it take?
CNNSI wrote:
If ESPY winner Dean Karnazes had a 5 mile lead on you, could you eventually catch up to him? If so, how long would it take?
No. I couldn't. Anyone know what his marathon PR is? Got to at least be in the 2:40s I would think.
He couldn't have beaten me at 5,000 meters in my prime though, and probably not at anything from 10,000 on down. Maybe not even a half marathon. Can he run 1:15 for a half? Maybe he can.
Oh Flagpole, didn't you learn your lesson yesterday? Your opinions hold no clout because We've all figured out how much of a rim job you are.
Flagpole Willy wrote:
CNNSI wrote:If ESPY winner Dean Karnazes had a 5 mile lead on you, could you eventually catch up to him? If so, how long would it take?
No. I couldn't. Anyone know what his marathon PR is? Got to at least be in the 2:40s I would think.
He couldn't have beaten me at 5,000 meters in my prime though, and probably not at anything from 10,000 on down. Maybe not even a half marathon. Can he run 1:15 for a half? Maybe he can.
5 miles? No. I've run 1:12 for the half and I really doubt I could catch him even if he had a four mile head start. At a modest 6 flat pace, that's 24:00--- damn, no way.
Flagpole Willy wrote:
No. I couldn't. Anyone know what his marathon PR is? Got to at least be in the 2:40s I would think.
i dont think he has ever broken 3:00:xx
his fastest this year is 3:07 at napa.
marathonguide gives results back to 2000. he has no marathons going back prior to 2004. i think he started running long distances fairly recently, at least that is what i recall in his book - yes i read it.
he can certainly do better than a 3 hour marathon, how much better we may never know because all his times come with the "i just ran 49 marathons over the prior 49 days" or "i ran 50 miles to get here to the the race" type of excuse. on a certain level they sound "cool" but what i think they are for is to give him a convienent excuse for why his times are not "elite times." after all if he is "america's best distance runner" he should have the best times. all this nonsense allows him to explain why he does not.
i have very mixed feeling on him, but i do not think he has the guts to train for a run a marathon as a primary goal to prove what he can do.
as far as i am concerned, he can do what he has done - 3 hours flat. he is a 3 hour marathoner. impressive in my mind, but 1000s have faster times every year.
CNNSI wrote:
If ESPY winner Dean Karnazes had a 5 mile lead on you, could you eventually catch up to him? If so, how long would it take?
assuming the race was a marathon, dean's best time appears to be 3 hours flat at ney york city last year. that is about a 6:51 mpm pace.
a 5 mile lead at that pace gives him about a 34 minute lead.
to catch him you would need to run about a 2:26.
sam w wrote:
Flagpole Willy wrote:No. I couldn't. Anyone know what his marathon PR is? Got to at least be in the 2:40s I would think.
i dont think he has ever broken 3:00:xx
his fastest this year is 3:07 at napa.
marathonguide gives results back to 2000. he has no marathons going back prior to 2004. i think he started running long distances fairly recently, at least that is what i recall in his book - yes i read it.
he can certainly do better than a 3 hour marathon, how much better we may never know because all his times come with the "i just ran 49 marathons over the prior 49 days" or "i ran 50 miles to get here to the the race" type of excuse. on a certain level they sound "cool" but what i think they are for is to give him a convienent excuse for why his times are not "elite times." after all if he is "america's best distance runner" he should have the best times. all this nonsense allows him to explain why he does not.
i have very mixed feeling on him, but i do not think he has the guts to train for a run a marathon as a primary goal to prove what he can do.
as far as i am concerned, he can do what he has done - 3 hours flat. he is a 3 hour marathoner. impressive in my mind, but 1000s have faster times every year.
His last marathon of the 50 in a row was in 3 hours flat. Pretty sure he could get decently under that if he just trained for a marathon and actually raced it -- gotta be AT LEAST 2:50. I get the sense people think I'm defending him. I'm not. I'm just trying to be realistic.
In your original post you guessed his PR was in the 2:40's. Until he runs in the 2:40's, he's a 3hr marathoner.
Dr.J wrote:
In your original post you guessed his PR was in the 2:40's. Until he runs in the 2:40's, he's a 3hr marathoner.
Flagpole Willy is buying into the hype of Dean K.
:)
What are the conditions like? Is this on the south pole and is this the running or snow shoe division? Dean K. in his winning badwater prime, or over the hill can't break the 24 hour treadmill world record Dean Moen Karnazes?
Dr.J wrote:
In your original post you guessed his PR was in the 2:40's. Until he runs in the 2:40's, he's a 3hr marathoner.
He's never really raced a marathon as far as I know. Common sense tells me that anyone who ran 50 marathons in 50 days with the last one right on 3 hours flat that if he trained a bit mroe sensibly and focused on one race that he could probably be much lower than 3 flat. Somewhere under 2:50 (which would be in the 2:40s) seems reasonable to assume.
Though, I agree with you that until he does it, he's not a 2:40 something guy.
They should call you Flip Flop Willy because that's all you do; You flip-flopping asshole.