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    tm

    Member since 05/22/2007.

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    16 years ago 08/02/2007 10:08am EDT

    so this is an idea i recently came up with for a competitive local road race

    i propose a 5k race with a reasonable entry fee - say $15 and you get your money back if you hit certain time standards; i'm thinking 16 min open men, 17 min masters men, 19 min open women, 20 min masters women as a starting point

    on top of this there would be prize money to top 5 overall m/f, top 3 masters m/f

    i think this would attract good competition - cheap runners would love to get money back and anyone looking to break one of those times would have plenty of company plus people back from that would have lots of people in front of them and it would be just like any other 5k to them

    has this been done before? does anyone else think it could work? are the times reasonable? any other suggestions?

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    tm

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    16 years ago 08/02/2007 1:49pm EDT
    re: tm

    bump

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    McNugget

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    16 years ago 08/02/2007 1:52pm EDT
    re: tm

    i like the idea, but then again i am awesome and would easily get my money back and probably win a bunch more

    im just not sure how the slow people will react, i doubt they would find it as appealing

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    athleticsfreak

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    16 years ago 08/02/2007 1:54pm EDT
    re: tm

    good idea, sound simple enough in theory.

    I would use it as a training tempo running session, just to test my speed etc.

    good luck and see it through.

  • T.

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    16 years ago 08/02/2007 2:12pm EDT
    re: tm

    They wouldn't make any money as almost everyone will get their money back. Plus, giving the extra money away to the winners is like giving the people who didn't hit time their money back as well. So the people hosting the race would lose money.

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    tm

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    16 years ago 08/02/2007 2:36pm EDT
    re: T.

    in my area only 5 performances in local 5ks so far this whole year fit that criteria - i looked at results of ~10-15 different races, so it would not be safe to say everyone would get money back; i wonder if this would be enough incentive to draw people into the area for the race

  • sam w

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    16 years ago 08/02/2007 2:54pm EDT
    re: T.

    T. wrote:

    They wouldn't make any money as almost everyone will get their money back.

    I disagree. Almost NO ONE would get their money back.

    Take a look at the results from CARA's results page. I chose CARA since they have a lot of results from races all around Chicago so there is a big selection to view. Also, the way they list results, they often give 2 result links, one organized by age group, the other by time.

    http://www.cararuns.org/race_results/index.html

    You might be surprised how often a 17:xx time will outright win the race. I have seen races where 18:xx wins it.

    The bigger problem, is that it seems like a lot of work for the RD, but then since the times are at a level set high enough it might not be much work.

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    Towson exile

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    16 years ago 08/02/2007 2:55pm EDT
    re: tm

    I like the idea, but not many people running an 8 a.m. race on a Saturday can hit those times. A second option would be to have people guess their times and those within 10 seconds, for example, get their money back.

  • Lex Retard

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    16 years ago 08/02/2007 3:01pm EDT
    re: tm

    I don't know that these sorts of things would attract the mass of runners you need to cover expenses and also afford prize money.

    In Minneapolis last week they had a race with big prize money ($5000 for first in the 10K, men AND women) - elites came in from New York, Kansas, Georgia, Colorado, New Mexico, in addition to the Team USA-MN guys ... and the 10K attracted maybe 125 people overall. If this race was meant to raise money, they got their asses kicked. Not quite the same thing as your idea, I know, but the majority of runners don't have a dream of breaking 16 minutes, or 19 minutes, so what's the appeal for them? Obviously, a chance to run in a race with faster runners is not enough.

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