Theory of Gravity: do you believe it?

Sir Lance-alot wrote:

Flagpole Willy wrote:

We know so little.

IRONY OF THE CENTURY! The man who claims to know sooooo much about soooo many things says "we know so little." Flag, why don't you re-state that to say: ' all of you know so little, I know so much." That would be more accurate, right?

(just bustin' your chops flag, you know I can't resist. If you been paying attention, I've actually been agreeing with you on some threads of late!)

Sir Lance,

Fine for you to bust my chops; I do deserve that from time to time. I definitely don't think I know everything, and when it comes to space and the origin of the universe, even people who dedicate their lives to it know so little (and they know WAY more than I do).

Gravity sucks, or at least that's the way I think it works.

Actually, to my knowledge we don't know how gravity works, just that it is an attractive force dependent on mass and

distance.

Ever since that R. Kelly song I didn't believe in gravity because I believe that I can fly.....wooo!

Just so you all know...

Scientific theorys NEVER become laws. Theory's EXPLAIN laws.

HUGE difference.

Flagpole Willy wrote:

Whether it is a law or a theory, it's pretty solid. Less gravity on the smaller moon.

However, theories and laws are challenged every day by new discoveries. New pictures of Saturn's rings have raised tons of questions. We know so little.

Flagpole Willy, you are not serious are you. Do you want to trot out the so-called problems with gravitational theory? By the way, that useful GPS stuff would not work if the it ignored either Special Relativity or General Relativity. Now, what exactly is not right about General Relativity? If it were even off much in the size of the effects there would be substantial daily drift that would make GPS non-useful.

Relativity explains smaller scale objects and those that approach the speed of light. Newton could explain large scale objects, but when they were accelerated his theory of gravity fell apart.

That being said, on really small scales gravity appears to fall apart completely. Thus giving way to the atomic forces.

The understanding of gravity isn't complete, but saying you don't believe it because it's a theory is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. It's not something you believe or not, it's something that happens, unless you're going to argue that you're not being attracted to this large planet as a result of your mass. In which case your theory is worse than the theory of gravity and I promise less people will agree with you than the amount that don't "believe" in gravity.

Gravity's best bet for explanation currently resides with string theory. However, String theory was developed not through scientific experimentation, but rather someone came across a formula in a math book and thought....hey that represents what I think of as the universe very well. Granted it's been modified, but I find it extremely shady in general.

You have a point there. In the times when the Gods walked the Earth before man, there are still many examples of huge rocks being lifted and glided across the land effortlessly. A probable space-port at Beersheva has a single 200 ton flat stone from a quarry miles away. Read Zacharia Sitchin (The 12th Planet) for more details.

A guy in Florida had a rock garden with a number of stones weighing tons. He knew the secret to reversing gravitation because when he was forced to move his garden he was able to get several of the rocks onto a flatbed truck in like 20 minutes. He would never reveil what he knew that we don't but obviously he knew something about gravity we don't.

"Gravity sucks, or at least that's the way I think it works.

There's no such thing as "sucks". Only high pressure moving to low pressure and that would be "blows".

A more interesting question might be whether or not you believe in the Law of Conservation of Matter. Scientific consensus held that matter could neither be created nor destroyed--until it was proven false. Prior to that time, had you suggested on an pre-internet message board that you didn't believe that the Law of Conservation of Matter was incorrect, you'd have been laughed at--but you'd have been right.

It is the unfortunate fate of scientific theories that they can never be proven correct, but they can certainly be disproved; it's never wise to place absolute, unwavering belief in them.

GerrytheJogger wrote:

You have a point there. In the times when the Gods walked the Earth before man, there are still many examples of huge rocks being lifted and glided across the land effortlessly. A probable space-port at Beersheva has a single 200 ton flat stone from a quarry miles away. Read Zacharia Sitchin (The 12th Planet) for more details.

A guy in Florida had a rock garden with a number of stones weighing tons. He knew the secret to reversing gravitation because when he was forced to move his garden he was able to get several of the rocks onto a flatbed truck in like 20 minutes. He would never reveil what he knew that we don't but obviously he knew something about gravity we don't.

Looks like another one flew over the cuckoo's nest...

I don't care what those liberals want me to think. I'm not buying into it. When you think about it its all just opinion. I've had enough liberal propaganda.

eARTHE ROUND??!!%$w%....ME NO tHINEK so!

can't...type...floating off into space...no, wait...earth falling away from my feet...

weejori wrote:

I don't care what those liberals want me to think. I'm not buying into it. When you think about it its all just opinion. I've had enough liberal propaganda.

Like the Declaration of Independence: in my opinion, it was signed in Tierra del Fuego on March 9, 1974. It's my opinion so I can't be wrong.

GerrytheJogger wrote:

You have a point there. In the times when the Gods walked the Earth before man, there are still many examples of huge rocks being lifted and glided across the land effortlessly. A probable space-port at Beersheva has a single 200 ton flat stone from a quarry miles away. Read Zacharia Sitchin (The 12th Planet) for more details.

A guy in Florida had a rock garden with a number of stones weighing tons. He knew the secret to reversing gravitation because when he was forced to move his garden he was able to get several of the rocks onto a flatbed truck in like 20 minutes. He would never reveil what he knew that we don't but obviously he knew something about gravity we don't.

I think we have a solution to the plane on a treadmill problem!

26mi235 wrote:

Flagpole Willy wrote:

Whether it is a law or a theory, it's pretty solid. Less gravity on the smaller moon.

However, theories and laws are challenged every day by new discoveries. New pictures of Saturn's rings have raised tons of questions. We know so little.

Flagpole Willy, you are not serious are you. Do you want to trot out the so-called problems with gravitational theory? By the way, that useful GPS stuff would not work if the it ignored either Special Relativity or General Relativity. Now, what exactly is not right about General Relativity? If it were even off much in the size of the effects there would be substantial daily drift that would make GPS non-useful.

What are you disagreeing with brother? I could make a guess, but you weren't any near being clear, so it would be a wild guess. I don't think yo uand I have a disagreement. Spell it out a little better and I'll likely respond.

Troll or not this is a great topic.

There are so many fundamental questions regarding how gravity can work instanteously over great distances.

How is space and time actually warped by mass and energy?