F you, ESPN2

ESPN knows the hardcore fans will watch no matter what. So they are trying to lure channel surfers. The 5k is a boring race to watch for the average person. Commercials are more exciting. People watch exciting commercials and then they get drawn into the show.

Alan

For 1 hour it was good coverage. I know what happened in all the major races of the day. No need to show the entire 5000m race. As a fan if you wanted to see the entire race you should have made it your business to be in Indy. You're what's wrong with the sport. You're a die hard fan who only complains instead of getting out to the events to show your support. The athletes are doing their part. USATF is working to get track on TV or atleast on the web. What are you doing from the fans point of view to better the sport. Complaining on letsrun.

You guys are all forgetting...

Carol Lewis wasn't there.

Well stated, best post of this thread.

Track F@n wrote:

For 1 hour it was good coverage. I know what happened in all the major races of the day. No need to show the entire 5000m race. As a fan if you wanted to see the entire race you should have made it your business to be in Indy. You're what's wrong with the sport. You're a die hard fan who only complains instead of getting out to the events to show your support. The athletes are doing their part. USATF is working to get track on TV or atleast on the web. What are you doing from the fans point of view to better the sport. Complaining on letsrun.

Track F@n wrote:

. As a fan if you wanted to see the entire race you should have made it your business to be in Indy. You're what's wrong with the sport. You're a die hard fan who only complains instead of getting out to the events to show your support. The athletes are doing their part. USATF is working to get track on TV or atleast on the web. What are you doing from the fans point of view to better the sport. Complaining on letsrun.

WRONG. You do more to help the sport by watching it on TV than actually attending. Attendance means nothing, watching it on TV and getting ratings means everything.

Look at the NHL,they had record attendnce this year, but they had some of the lowest TV ratings in television history. Track meets get better TV ratings than the NHL, WNBA, and some MLB

show it up wrote:

WRONG. You do more to help the sport by watching it on TV than actually attending. Attendance means nothing, watching it on TV and getting ratings means everything.

WRONG!!!! If you aren't a Nielsen poll participant, then it doesn't matter what you watch, your viewing behavior doesn't factor into any ratings. On the other hand, going to the meet helps with gates, which every attendee factors into. The closer USATF is to having packed houses at these meets, the more competition there will be to televise it and the better the coverage will be. When people leave in droves before the women's 10,000m, don't think that it goes unnoticed by the powers that be. Wouldn't happen if it were the women's 200m or pole vault.

Why is everbody talking about tying shoes? As I recall they had the camera pointed at the lights for about 10 seconds as well as the track itself, I mean the actual surface and lines on the track, with nobody in the frame. This all in addition to the two commerical breaks. Whatever you think about the quality of Gay vs. Lagat or whatever, this coverage is terrible. In some cases I have actually seen more coverage, in terms of total seconds, of the 100m ( a couple false starts, a few prayers, a few tongue stick-outs, and a lesson on the "new" false start rule) than the 5,000m. BS

Track F@n wrote:

As a fan if you wanted to see the entire race you should have made it your business to be in Indy. You're what's wrong with the sport. You're a die hard fan who only complains instead of getting out to the events to show your support.

Oh, f*** me. I don't have an extra $500+ lying around to blow on a weekend at a track meet, and now I'm what's wrong with the sport?

What a dick.

Then quit squandering your money on other stuff, then you'd have the money to go.

excuses excuses wrote:

Then quit squandering your money on other stuff, then you'd have the money to go.

You're right. I'm sorry, I should've known college was a stupid idea.

Maybe I'll just start walking 500 miles back and forth to college. That way I would save gas.

And who needs food? I can stop buying that. And don't get me started on clothes, it's cheaper to walk around naked all day.

How the fcuk do you think you know what I'm spending money on you prick?

You're American, that's how I know. Bus fare = less than car payment + car insurance + gas. How often to you need new clothes? Are you getting a really late stage growth spurt? Or are you getting fatter? Or do the knees in your pants just mysteriously wear out about a month after buying them?

What I can't get over is that you do not know me at all. You have no idea how much I make, where I'm going to college (out of state tuition in Colorado schools is freakin ridiculus) and yet you seem to know that I'm squandering money.

According to you, anyone whose finances won't allow them hundreds of dollars to blow on a weekend must be "squandering money."

I'm 19, make 6.75 an hour, trying to save for college. Now, if you feel that I am "what's wrong with the sport" because I don't feel like blowing a paycheck or two on one weekend going to a track meet three states away when I can simply watch it on espn and flocasts, then I'm really f***ing sorry.

F***

You're American, you (your parents) pay out-of-state tuition to go to a university, you're upper middle class. You squander and you don't even realize it, it's part of your lifestyle. What are you using to post your messages? How do your friends stay in touch with you? What kind of car do you drive, insure, and put gas into?

Weren't you the one complaining about the coverage available to you on ESPN and Flocasts? If it's not good enough for you, then what is? You want it both ways, don't you?

If traveling to the meet is "blowing" money to you rather than an experience you'd enjoy immensely, then you aren't much of a fan in the first place. STFU and go away if seeing all the events live is unimportant to you, whiner.

ooookay moving on... does anyone know if espn2 will/has put any parts of their footage online? On NBC today they announced highlights from their coverage will be on nbcsports.com, basically what I'm wondering is did espn2 put any of the 5k's online?

Yes