Destroyed the field at the Teva games 10k.
Crushed the record at Leadville last year.
Has won the Pikes Peak Marathon over and over and over.
Legendary runner.
Sick.
Destroyed the field at the Teva games 10k.
Crushed the record at Leadville last year.
Has won the Pikes Peak Marathon over and over and over.
Legendary runner.
Sick.
Does Matt have a website where he posts his training, bio and such?
It may be Skyrunner.com
It wasn't last year that he won Leadville. Anton Krupicka won last year.
Matt is a great runner at altitude no doubt, but if he's that good why is he never going to sea level race some real competition, instead of doing the same race year after year which he know's he's going to win is he scarred of racing people who do not worship him on the mountain?
Carpenter is accomplished in the ultra world; but in terms of tough mountain runners, you have to talk about Jonathan Wyatt from new Zealand. Came in top 25, I believe, in the 2004 Olympic marathon and destroyed the Mount Washington Road race course record not too long ago. Carpenter ran 1:02 there at age 40 and Wyatt's course record is in the 56:00s. So, in their respective primes, would have been close.
Not one of the greatest runners.. sorry.
I like Matt, but he is not one of the greatest runners in history.
Not that anybody cares; but Carpenter ran his best time, 59 and change, at Mount Washington at age 28, 3 minutes slower than Wyatt's course record.
sexpistols wrote:
Matt is a great runner at altitude no doubt, but if he's that good why is he never going to sea level race some real competition, instead of doing the same race year after year which he know's he's going to win is he scarred of racing people who do not worship him on the mountain?
He is not scarred (nor scared) of racing people who do not worship him on the mountain. He has done so. He would be the first to admit that at sea level is not, relatively speaking, as good as he is in the mountains. Mountain and altitude running is his best event so that is what he does.
One might also ask why the people who do not worship him on the mountain are scared of racing him on the mountain. They are not. They've raced him there. And they have almost always lost.
It's just his thing.
I agree Johnathan wyatt is an extremely good runner on all surfaces and at all altitudes this to me makes him a better runner than matt carpenter, road mountain sea level and altitude matt is good but Incline club sorry far from the best.
Worth repeating - Carpenter did not win Leadville last year.
ok. He won the year before and crushed the record by over an hour.
Mtn Running is so hard its unreal. I have run with Matt and a few of the USA guys and I had so much trouble keeping up on the Mountain. I have never felt hurt like that before
(I ran 24:15 in college and 8:50 steeple)
I have to second that. My 2 most painful races are the 10000m on the track (trying to qualify for the Oly trials and only 4 sec's off the mark) and running a 8k mountain uphill trail race. The pain is unrelenting in a mountain race.
I'll second "lech's" opinion/experience here. I'm not as fast as many posters on these venerable boards: when I was competing I ran 13:40 and 28:30 for 5k and 10k (I also qualified for 8 USATF outdoors in 10 years). So I was OK. During my prime I visited the Springs a few times and got killed in training by Matt. I don't think he was racing me either but rather just doing his regular training. I should mention that I wasn't just some "flat-lander" who was out of his element either. I was altitude trained and incorporated ascents into my weekly regimen on a regular basis. I am more impressed with Matt because he isn't a Wyatt (sub-28 talent type guy). He is a 2:19 marathoner (and that is the LOW end of his speed range!). I believe he IS one of the Greatest Runners and one of the most unique for sure. He is a true mutant (in a god way). If he were one of the X-men he would be "hypoxic-man".
lech fan wrote:
Mtn Running is so hard its unreal. I have run with Matt and a few of the USA guys and I had so much trouble keeping up on the Mountain. I have never felt hurt like that before
(I ran 24:15 in college and 8:50 steeple)
DLT10033 wrote:
Worth repeating - Carpenter did not win Leadville last year.
Worth noting - Carpenter did not *race* at LT100 last year either. He won Pikes Peak Marathon again that weekend. He demolished the CR at LT100 the year before... BY 93 MINUTES. That's almost a minute per mile faster than the previous CR on a hundred mile course.
Matt may or may not be one of the "greatest" runners out there, but Matt is certainly one of the toughest. He did run 2:19 at Houston years ago to get an OTQ.
correction: "good" way. Although he is sort of a lesser mountain deity. Maybe "demiurge" pf Barr trail or something.
[quote]hypoxic-man wrote:
(in a god way).
worth replying wrote:
DLT10033 wrote:Worth repeating - Carpenter did not win Leadville last year.
Worth noting - Carpenter did not *race* at LT100 last year either. He won Pikes Peak Marathon again that weekend. He demolished the CR at LT100 the year before... BY 93 MINUTES. That's almost a minute per mile faster than the previous CR on a hundred mile course.
Matt may or may not be one of the "greatest" runners out there, but Matt is certainly one of the toughest. He did run 2:19 at Houston years ago to get an OTQ.
Joss Naylor is 10 times tougher.
Having raced Matt I can tell you first hand that this guy is a beast! It does not matter the terrain, he will put you in the hurt locker and not even know it! He can likely be beat in road events, and other track disciplines. But if the road points up look out, Wyatt too is a stud, no reason to declare who is better or best.
What I will say is Joss Naylor may be the toughest of the all.
sexpistols wrote:
Matt is a great runner at altitude no doubt, but if he's that good why is he never going to sea level race some real competition, instead of doing the same race year after year which he know's he's going to win is he scarred of racing people who do not worship him on the mountain?
Mountain running is a specific sport. It's Matt's speciality. I think scared is a ridiculous word to use for Matt. He spends all of his non-training time trying to be an advocate to the sport and get more competition in US Mountain Running Races. Look at the prize purse he was able to help get for this year's Pikes Peak Marathon. He welcomes the competition and knows he only gets better from it.
Here's what he said about the year he lost to Daniel Kihara:
"My PR was set in the race with Daniel Kihara - we went elbow/elbow the whole way. He's a great road racer - he got me to do a lot of the work; he had great tactics. He schooled me. He'd even do fake surges, pull up alongside me, make me go harder, then drop right back into my shadow again. I really thought I had that race, I felt very good, but at the end when he went, I didn't even try to respond. I'd rather lose a great race like that one, than win a poor one. That was a good race."