Broad Street Results?

132 Patrick Cheruiyot Kenya 21 M 00:45:14 00:45:14 1 1 1 98.5% 4:31.3

133 Benson Cheruyot Kenya 24 M 00:45:19 00:45:19 2 2 2 97.9% 4:31.8

11 Macharia Yuot Phila. PA 25 M 00:47:59 00:47:59 3 3 1 92.5% 4:47.8

1699 Thomas Rhodes Willow Grove PA 23 M 00:48:49 00:48:49 4 4 3 90.9% 4:52.8

2173 John Kipchirchirbitok Baltimore MD 27 M 00:49:02 00:49:02 5 5 2 90.5% 4:54.2

119 Christopher Nirschel Philadelphia PA 23 M 00:49:40 00:49:41 6 6 4 89.4% 4:58.1

580 Edward Callinan Haddonfield NJ 32 M 00:49:41 00:49:42 7 7 1 89.5% 4:58.2

4 Ross Martinson Conshohocken PA 29 M 00:49:51 00:49:52 8 8 3 89% 4:59.2

200 David Berdon 26 M 00:49:51 00:49:52 9 9 4 89% 4:59.2

124 Jon Fasulo Berlin NJ 26 M 00:50:07 00:50:08 10 10 5 88.6% 5:00.7

10 Terrance Armstrong Pompton Lake NJ 35 M 00:50:08 00:50:09 11 11 1 89.6% 5:00.8

106 AJ Kelly Altoona PA 25 M 00:50:15 00:50:16 12 12 6 88.3% 5:01.6

9 Carl Rundell Birmingham MI 39 M 00:50:20 00:50:21 13 13 2 91.7% 5:02.1

8 Matthew Sandercock Exton PA 38 M 00:50:31 00:50:32 14 14 3 90.7% 5:03.2

421 Michael McKeeman Ardmore PA 30 M 00:50:37 00:50:38 15 15 2 87.7% 5:03.7

15 Tim Mulligan Whiting NJ 26 M 00:50:38 00:50:39 16 16 7 87.7% 5:03.8

126 Zach Miller Media PA 23 M 00:50:40 00:50:42 17 17 5 87.6% 5:04.2

842 Matthew Wagoner New Cumberland PA 29 M 00:50:48 00:50:48 18 18 8 87.4% 5:04.7

25 Brian Baillie Washington DC 24 M 00:51:13 00:51:14 19 19 6 86.7% 5:07.3

583 Steve Gourley Perkasie PA 28 M 00:51:25 00:51:26 20 20 9 86.3% 5:08.6

726 Christopher Wadas Dallas PA 25 M 00:51:49 00:51:51 21 21 10 85.6% 5:11.1

148 Adam Littke Jersey City NJ 33 M 00:52:04 00:52:05 22 22 3 85.6% 5:12.5

11396 JOHN BRANNON WILMINGTON DE 34 M 00:52:13 00:52:14 23 23 4 85.7% 5:13.3

686 Randy McDermott Bethesda MD 35 M 00:52:19 00:52:21 24 24 4 85.9% 5:14.1

416 Fred Klevan Merion Station PA 45 M 00:52:23

132 Patrick Cheruiyot Kenya 21 M 00:45:14 00:45:14 1 1 1 98.5% 4:31.3

Fastest 10 mile time ever in the US.

Props to A.J. Kelly -- guy is on a tear. Every run is a PR..look forward to seenig him get the OLY Trials qualifier at Grandma's. Way to make the Burt Hoovis Track Club proud!!!

Hoovis

Bib FName LName City State Country Age Sex ChipTime ClockTime Overall SexPl DivPl AgeGrade pace

Naomi Wangui Kenya 28 F 00:53:43 38 1 1 92.5% 5:22.2

Olga Romanova Germantown MD 26 F 00:54:14 50 2 2 91.6% 5:25.3

Renee Gunning Philadelphia PA 25 F 00:54:28 53 3 3 91.2% 5:26.7

Casey Smith Richmond VA 27 F 00:56:59 104 4 4 87.2% 5:41.8

Abby Dean Phila. PA 35 F 00:57:08 109 5 1 87.9% 5:42.7

Claire Duncan Phila. PA 23 F 00:58:21 133 6 1 85.2% 5:50.1

Susan Yagielski Rochester NY 32 F 00:58:36 139 7 1 85.1% 5:51.6

Aimee Baylor lewisburg PA 35 F 00:58:47 142 8 2 85.4% 5:52.8

Doreen McCoubrie Malvern PA 45 F 00:58:49 143 9 1 91.2% 5:53.2

Kim Walsh Ardmore PA 33 F 00:58:58 145 10 2 84.6% 5:54.0

Maureen Ackerly Richmond VA 38 F 00:59:14 152 11 3 85.9% 5:55.6

Emily Ward Richmond VA 25 F 01:00:30 193 12 5 82.1% 6:03.2

Leslee Hoey Downingtown PA 37 F 01:01:10 206 13 4 82.8% 6:07.1

Meredith Coulibaly Philadelphia PA 27 F 01:01:15 211 14 6 81.1% 6:07.6

Kathleen Miller Phoenixville PA 28 F 01:01:20 215 15 7 81% 6:08.2

Ana Leonard Chalfont PA 30 F 01:01:26 221 16 3 80.9% 6:08.8

Katie Breitenbach Elkridge MD 26 F 01:01:34 225 17 8 80.7% 6:09.5

Sylvia Schenk Haddonfield NJ 40 F 01:01:44 231 18 1 83.4% 6:11.0

Sarah Muhlbradt Piermont NY 29 F 01:02:19 259 19 9 79.7% 6:14.1

Melissa Lafferty Wilmington DE 42 F 01:02:37 272 20 2 83.4% 6:16.2

Jenae strader Philadelphia PA 30 F 01:03:27 307 21 4 78.3% 6:20.7

Allyson Schindel Glen Allen VA 32 F 01:03:35 310 22 5 78.4% 6:21.6

Kelly Phillips W Lafayette IN 39 F 01:03:46 331 23 5 80.2% 6:23.3

Amy Blithe Wilmington DE 36 F 01:03:54 338 24 6 78.9% 6:24.3

Lorraine Jasper Birchville PA 45 F 01:04:05 339 25 2 83.7% 6:24.6

Lauren Zuidema Wernersville PA 27 F 01:04:09 341 26 10 77.4% 6:24.8

Susan Copleman Berwyn PA 36 F 01:04:15 348 27 7 78.4% 6:25.7

Julie Hankin West Chester PA 42 F 01:04:15 353 28 3 81.3% 6:26.2

Jenifer Meyer Perkiomenville PA 31 F 01:04:46 382 29 6 76.8% 6:30.0

Diane Kenna New York NY 42 F 01:05:10 392 30 4 80.1%

Great run, Diane Kenna!

Nice wrote:

132 Patrick Cheruiyot Kenya 21 M 00:45:14 00:45:14 1 1 1 98.5% 4:31.3

Fastest 10 mile time ever in the US.

Not surprising, given the strong winds out of the NE we had here in CT today. If it was anything close in Philly, they had to be flying (almost literally!).

Nice wrote:

132 Patrick Cheruiyot Kenya 21 M 00:45:14 00:45:14 1 1 1 98.5% 4:31.3

Fastest 10 mile time ever in the US.

It's not even close to a record-quality course. Downhill and wind-aided. It always produces crazy-fast times.

Just thought I'd point out that the 4th place finisher, Tom Rhodes, went only 14:57 in the 5k while running div III. The guys gets out of college and starts to fly.

Way to go Tommy. It's not often a no name gets to blow people out of the water. Keep it up.

Add at least a minute to offset the huge tailwind and net downhill.

YES Tommy Rhoooooooooodes

Most inspiring runner I've ever run with.

Way to represent Upper Dublin, I'm sure Ames will put this one in the spank bank.

Okay...and your point is...what? Even if you add the minute, which I won't (elev. change is only 300ft), that doesn't change the fact that he ran an amazing race.

The truth is right there in the time, and it ain't hurtin nobody.

"Only" 300 feet? That's almost a 0.6% steady downhill grade. For a 50-minute race, that's worth a lot more than one minute, even if there's no prevailing tailwind. (For record purposes, even if the start and finish lines were within an acceptable distance, the net downhill grade could not be more than 0.1%.)

Every year, the Broad Street 10-Miler create a buzz with superfast times and talk of breakout performances. If people are going to ascribe any significance to the times run there, they should probably just think of it as a 9.7-mile race or thereabouts -- less if there's a prevailing tailwind.

Oh gosh darn it all. You're right, let's take away any sort of laudation these runners deserve. In fact, I don't know why the city of Philadelphia doesn't have a great big sign up saying: You might as well not run this because you'll be discredited no matter what.

Tommy, you better give up now, there's no future for you in this running craze. At least stay away from those silly track races where you run around in circles...I hear they don't count because you just end up where you started.

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Come on, guys. A race is a race is a duck. The point of this is for people to test themselves at the limit of their ability, not prance around for a lark, so why is there always negativity involved?

Regardless of the scenario, there were some great efforts put forth.

Nobody said that people didn't put forth good efforts. But you said, "The truth is right there in the time . . . ." What truth is that?

(A couple of days ago, I was running with a guy who was one of the top middle- and long-distance runners in the U.S. back in the 1970s. Although he has stayed involved in running, he hasn't really followed the road-racing scene over the years. He was surprised and amused to hear that there are people out there who actually claim PRs on downhill road race courses. He has no idea . . . .)

I was commenting on the name of an earlier poster: the truth hurts. His tactless implication being that there is nothing in the results of which to be proud.

Of course people (I understand the generalization of this claim but it will have to make do) are going to claim PRs on courses that may or may not be "legitimate." That's just human nature. It's much in the same way many people will claim a relay split as a PR. Everyone understands that that is different, but it doesn't change the fact that they covered the same distance in a new best time.

Sure, put an asterix by the time but, to those who care (i.e. the runner their supporters), nothing changes.

Tom Rhodes:

Tell me more about him. I could use some inspiration.

Thank you kindly.

Just ask Bob Kempainen about his PR in Boston with the strong tailwind. He'll be the first to tell you that it is not an accurate marathon PR.

I don't think Joe's points are aimed at world class marathoners like Bob.