COLUMBIA WINS 4X800 AT PENN

Hurtault was a 48.6/ 1:57 guy in HS who has developed into a 45.99 guy there.

no man, eckman split a crappy 1:52 in the DMR, they were right to sideline him. AMAZING job by columbia, erison hurtault is PHENOMENAL.

its pretty unfair to compare UNI winning drake in 7:19 and saying they would have won PENN. The reason the penn race was slow was because of all the traffic. dont get me wrong UNI has a great squad, but running free with only a couple other teams is always going to be faster than running in a pack of 10 in a 4x800!

That kick by the Columbia anchor gave me goosebumps. That was a terrific race by him and the 3rd leg as well. The only reason it gives me goosebumps is I had a fellow teammate on my 4x800 outkick a guy in the same way to win the MN state title a while back. Congrats to Columbia for winning the best relay out of all of them.

jonah wasn\'t the weak leg tho.. slowest of the group with high school times but he split 1:49 yesterday

CU wrote:

jonah wasn't the weak leg tho.. slowest of the group with high school times but he split 1:49 yesterday

that's why I put it in quotes.

In addition to the four that won at Penn, Columbia has four other guys that run 1:54 or faster. That is a fairly deep middle distance squad by any standard.

Wow, look what happens when an ivy isn't singlemindedly focused on winning Heps....

that 154 guy ran 150.x last year on the lead off and handed off in the lead, just had an off day... you dont know what your talking about.

cant compare wrote:

its pretty unfair to compare UNI winning drake in 7:19 and saying they would have won PENN. The reason the penn race was slow was because of all the traffic. dont get me wrong UNI has a great squad, but running free with only a couple other teams is always going to be faster than running in a pack of 10 in a 4x800!

I guess I missed that lesson. I always thought it was easier to run a faster time with more traffic. Props to Columbia for a great race with a loaded field. And bigger props to UNI for smoking a 4x800 with only 1 other team really giving them any bit of competition .

[[/quote]I guess I missed that lesson. I always thought it was easier to run a faster time with more traffic..[/quote]

Yep, it's easier to make it to work on time with more traffic too, dumbf***.

As a Columbia alum, it's great to see the Lions roar!

dirk Diggler wrote:

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I guess I missed that lesson. I always thought it was easier to run a faster time with more traffic..[/quote]

Yep, it's easier to make it to work on time with more traffic too, dumbf***.[/quote]

Hey dumba**, do you think its easier to race a fast time with more people pushing you or less?

Lets see, only 1 team close to you , or 5 teams pushing the pace, which is easier? Columbia is a great team, but on this past weekend its doubtful they would have beaten UNI.

What about the factor that when the pace slows no one wants to take the lead, like at penn on the first and third legs.

The fact is UNI will finish top 10 at NCAAs, overall and Columbia won't. Also, UNI ran a faster 4x800. In addition UNI has 2 guys on the NCAA 800 list Columbia doesn't. But Penn is the biggest relay Carnival of the year (and I live in Iowa) so let Columbia have their Penn championship. They beat some nasty teams. Could they beat UNI in a 4x800? Looking at the tape of the Penn race, they ran a perfect team race. It is a shame that those two great meets are on the same day. It would be great to see a 4x800 at the NCAA meet, too.

is craig lake taking credit for this win also?

haha ... yeah i heard brown ran 7:21 this weekend too.

Traffic, and lots of people around you helps when your running 5k, but 4x4's and 4x8's are not helped out by having 10 teams within 3 sec of each other the whole race. it just takes to much out of you to have to constantly start and stop at that pace. yes competition helps, but too much is a bad thing, thats why they dont stick 14 people in the 800m finals at ncaa's. Also it does mess up pace, as you can tell by the first legs going out in 56-57!

Granted, I am somewhat biased because I am a native New Yorker, but that was one of the most exciting races I have ever seen in my entire life. It was so great to see an Ivy mix it up with the Big Dogs. Roar Lions!