FOR ALL YOU MILAGE FREAKS IN HIGH SCHOOL...

running 3:51.1 in 1967 on a dirt track is just so awful, JR, one of our best ever!!

So let me get this straight. It is very important to not do high mileage training in high school. This is bad. Do everything in your power to resist trying to compete with the best because they are born with supreme talent and deserve to dominate everyone else.

Please do not try to work any harder if that is what it takes for you to be competitive. It is very bad to do this and you will burn out and only improve a little if it all.

Its far better to have fresh legs and a high school PR of 10:00 and improve to 14:50 then to run 90 miles a week and come into college already running that mark.

If I trained so hard that I set world records but ended up hating the sport, I would say that is a very fair trade indeed.

why does this topic continue to feature silly arguments on both extremes? How about an eye for smart effective volume/intensity training with a dose of moderation.

NO it is not better to maximize the the volume/intensity mix in HS for the potential to break HS records. It is borne out by history that chances of running elite distance times in the peak years of 25-34 are much better if HSers do not run with high volume and intensity, plus lots of racing. I would advocate no more than 85-90 mile summer base weeks and no more than 60 mile hard weeks during a season.

Killing yourself in HS extracts both a mental and physical effect, plus other unique life distractions come along in America to those talented runners. They are in suddently more in demand from friends and admirers. Life in general looks more interesting to the person(who may have been a bit of a nerd in HS). Without injuries involved, the high intensity in HS takes mostly a mental toll.

One of Scotts guys, Chris O'Neal, won $11,000 and a Jeep and a trip to Europe on the Price is Right a few weeks a go.

"My coach, Ramon Chavez, is now one of the assistant coaches at Pepperdine. He used to hold me back a lot, and I used to ask him why. And he used to tell me 'well, I want you to be a good collegiate runner and beyond.' He was real concerned. He didn't want to burn me out at a young age. Now, I can kind of see the method to his madness."

- Matt Gonzales

your all a bunch arm chair f***ing runners, it gets old hearing you debate over low miles high miles or no miles. Fast slow who gives a rats ass, i mean the reason 1/2 of yall are on this is because you didn't have the balls to try high milegage or low quality miles. you run you get hurt oh well the world isn't stopping anytime soon cus some gets hurt running, get up and f***ing try something else and wahtever worx for you worx for u , no one said it had to work for anyone else.

what about steve scott's quote? wasnt that the f***ing purpose of this thread? respond to that quote - steve scott (mr. sub-4 136x's/mr. 3:47/etc.) thinks high milage in high school isnt good. i concur w/ him - you can't knock his credentials

duh... wrote:

what about steve scott's quote? wasnt that the f***ing purpose of this thread? respond to that quote - steve scott (mr. sub-4 136x's/mr. 3:47/etc.) thinks high milage in high school isnt good. i concur w/ him - you can't knock his credentials

No... If you talk to him he'll tell you that the single biggest readon we don't compete in mid-distance/distance on the world scene is a lack of lifetime volume.

There's a reason he puts his name on the back of RWTB.