What do you all think of the ohio collegiate distance programs? How do they compare with the rest of the country? Any predictions on who will have a break out year individial wise and team wise in CC? What do you think of all the d1 programs, etc. Which programs have some insane training? Or do they all suck? Which teams have the most depth in distance wise in track?
What do I think about the Ohio collegiate distance program? I don't. The most impressive guys were the non recruited studs of Malone College in the early 70s, who won the NAIA X-C title in 1972; back when the NAIA was much better (at the top), than NCAA D2.
[quote]erea wrote:
Any predictions on who will have a break out year individial wise and team wise in CC? [quote]
I'll bet it's not Ohio University
very, very average.
OSU has improved a great deal in the last 10 years and really are the class of the state. Qualified a team 6 of the last 8 years for NCAA Championships. Were awful this past year, but still way better than other Ohio schools!
mr. reality.. wrote:
What do I think about the Ohio collegiate distance program? I don't. The most impressive guys were the non recruited studs of Malone College in the early 70s, who won the NAIA X-C title in 1972; back when the NAIA was much better (at the top), than NCAA D2.
What ever makes you feel better.
To be perfectly honest, there is only one team in the state thinking about qualifying for NCAA. Malone is a shell of itself; OSU runs a B team and still kills Malone at All-Ohio.
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how are the mac teams in ohio? any team to watch out for in the fall?
erea wrote:
how are the mac teams in ohio? any team to watch out for in the fall?
Ha Ha! That's funny. Christ, the only ones with a full program left are Kent and Akron. And if you're asking about women's programs, forget it. Only one MAC women's team from Ohio has ever qualified for NCAA cross, BG in '98.
Let's put it this way. I've never been any good as a runner; when I was at BG I was the 11th man on the best day of my life, and I don't think we were ever in the top half of the MAC. At 35 years old and 20 pounds overweight, I would have been their 7th man this year. And they weren't even last in the conference!
If you don't have a track program, you have no chance to compete.
Arnt the Akron womens distance team quite good?
On the DIII level, 3 teams made it to nationals in cross and in indoor the national champ in the 800 was from Ohio. I don't know if DIII counts in anyone's book, but that is pretty good.
wow impressive that see, ealy, bailey, baylo, collins, and such were all on the b team this year...i would like to see the a squad...too bad the a squad still didn't make it to NCAA
Scru the buckeyes. If all the best runners in the state went to Wooster, they could win d3 nationals every year!!!
Go Scots!!!!!
Ohio State sucked it up last year in cc for how much talent they have.
Miami is a pretty nice Men's CC program as well in Ohio. I think they have the most recent team representation at NCAA of Ohio men's MAC teams.
mr. sane wrote:
mr. reality.. wrote:What do I think about the Ohio collegiate distance program? I don't. The most impressive guys were the non recruited studs of Malone College in the early 70s, who won the NAIA X-C title in 1972; back when the NAIA was much better (at the top), than NCAA D2.
What ever makes you feel better.
You got that right. I never thought I'd see the day when Hazen would enter guys in the friggin' race walk. Was this an effort to get some garbage points to beat Cedarville or to be sure he had some All-Americans?
At least they had a runner-up in the 3000m RUN!
Probably should add something positive to this thread about the state of affairs of Ohio men's distance running.
Div I teams:
There are a few solid teams in the state that have the potential to make the NCAA meet each year - Miami and OSU.
Other solid teams that will probably never make NCAA but be competitive in their conference are Kent, Dayton (Ohio was moving back into that direction) and possibly Cinci.
Teams that will probably not be much better than mid level conference are Akron and BGSU.
Div II/NAIA teams:
Malone probably leads the pack due to the level of talent they recruit in but Cedarville has outperformed (made better time improvements) them from All-Ohio to nationals the past two years. Ashland has always been a solid program without much recruiting and missed nationals by 14 points this year in what probably is the deepest non-division I regional in college cross country.
Shawnee has been doing quite well over the past few years from where they are coming from. Solid improvements and solid coaching.
Tiffin has made solid improvements over what they used to be but still have a long way to go to get to the level of the top 3. Findlay guys distance program is almost non-existant.
Walsh is probably somewhere behind Tiffin and infront of Findlay.
Div III:
Mount, ONU, Heidleberg are all solid programs. Mount has always been strong and ONU and H have all seemed to come on strong lately. The smaller ohio schools are starting to get some very good talent which are leading them to making a mark on the national level in div III. Mount folded at XC nats and ONU I don't believe ran much better.
Another school that is competitive is Otterbein and Ohio Weslyan will become much more competitive in the next few years due to their new assistant.
Several quality options in Ohio. It depends on what you are looking for. If you go Div I you have a small chance of making nationals. If you go NAIA you are very likely to make nationals, as it is very easy to do so if you are half way decent. If you go Div II you have about as good of a chance as if you were in Div I. Div III you have a better chance than Div I or II but not as good as NAIA.
Track would take too long to breakdown but I would take a quick look at indoor results at the end of the indoor season and if you are still looking, check out how the teams did at the end of the outdoor season. Many schools will waste themselves indoors and faulter outdoors.
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Ashland is horrible in the distances. I bet that we don't qualify one distance guy on the track for Nationals this year. The coaching staff is far more interested in their own running than they are with helping any of the athletes. We had a quality kid from my high school that I told to go elsewhere because I see how bad it has gotten in the distance ranks at Ashland.
Nick and Leigh are far more interested in the team than they are their own running. They have retired from being competitive on the road circuit.