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A sub 4 miler for the men, and for the women, sub....4:40?!

Whole lot easier for a woman to run sub 4:40 than a man sub 4.

How fair is that?! wrote:

A sub 4 miler for the men, and for the women, sub....4:40?!

Whole lot easier for a woman to run sub 4:40 than a man sub 4.

no, not really. look at high school records. womens is 4:35, mens is 3:53.

This isn't for high schoolers. It's for college aged and above. So yes, 4:40 is easier for women (4:12 world record) then 4:00 is for men (3:43 world record). Even if you compare just the college aged records, women have it easier.

I assume this is the same one Mr. Webb is running in...

No, I'm retarded, that was South Carolina I think...

High school female runners are far from serious. The top 20% of male distance runners in HS train about as hard as the top 3% of female. The gap is still wide in college. That's why a talented girl that trains hard(ie Kim Smith or Shalane Flanagan) can utterly dominate the female side. You won't see gaps that wide in men's college running.

Last year...only 3 women in NCAA DI ran under 4:40 indoors, while a total of 13 men ran under 4 minutes indoors.

The 2007 NCAA DI automatic qualifying standard for the men's mile is 3:59.80 and for the women is 4:40.60. So, based on the numbers within NCAA DI 4:00/4:40 are basically the same. Seems to me like the numbers are on target.

This is really interesting. I had no idea there was an indoor track in Richmond, Virginia.

Wanted Sub 4 Miler wrote:

Last year...only 3 women in NCAA DI ran under 4:40 indoors, while a total of 13 men ran under 4 minutes indoors.

That's cause on average men are more dedicated. Sorry if that offends anyone.

kartelite wrote:

[That's cause on average men are more dedicated. Sorry if that offends anyone.

You sir, are clueless and lack self confidence.

Does anyone know if there will be rabbits to set the pace?

The ratio of the women's mile WR to the men's gives 4:00=4:32. Account for the greater "PED effect" of the women's events, and it might be more like 4:35. The NCAA and USATF standards reflect less depth for the women.

There were at least two indoor tracks in Richmond 20 years ago (Arthur Ashe and St. Christophers), so I'm sure there are more now.

The new St. Christophers facility looks very nice. The old one I ran on in the 1980s was hilarious. I didn't go to St. Chris myself, but every year our first indoor meet would be at their place. Anyway, the field house was unheated, so everyone in there, including the parents, would be bundled up tight for hours, it would be about 40-45 degrees in there. The runners would stay in sweats until the last possible second before stripping down literally on the starting line. The surface was just flat painted concrete, I believe 10 laps to the mile

The funniest thing was that some of the races of odd distances didn't finish in the normal place (the finish line), they finished going out a big garage door that would be opened as the athletes were on the homestretch. The line was at the threshold of the door, so you wound up running outside to finish your race. One year there was a big snow, and I'll never forget the look on the faces of the sprinters as they barreled out the door trying to outlean each other and wiped out into a snowbank.

I PR'd in the high jump in that field house, one that stands to this day.

carnivore, what high school did you go to?

The new St. Christopher's track is real nice. 6 lane, flat, 200M oval with 8 sprint lanes on each straight. I believe the surface is Beynon Sport Surface wall to wall. It is fast and to my knowledge it's the 2nd year of existance, so no college runners have ever raced on it.

Your telling me this track is at a high school? WTF!!!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!

This looks like a great meet. Finals only. Track events only. Top level talent from high school and college/open. If they can get Scott, the FL Champ, to run the open mile that would make it more interesting. Any word if she will run indoors?

I'm amazed how you people complain. Here is a meet offering $1K for a race and you people say it's not fair. No wonder meets say screw putting any money up. I say good job to the people making this happen.

Godwin