Ohio State kicking some Tar Heel a$$

someone wrote:

Are you kidding? A 7 footer that is a two time high school player of the year and was said to have been the top player selected in the NBA if eligible this year on a team with no other size would not have made a huge difference?

Not saying OSU would have won, but Oden would obviously make a very big difference. Game would have been totally different.

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Oden wouldn't have made a huge difference, and Hansborough is nasty.

Yep. Oden would have made a HUGE difference for sure. OSU is a very good team without him, but they will be GREAT with him.

Let's all remember that Oden was 2x national high school player a year. Yeah, that's when he was JUNIOR and Hansbrough was still in HS.

Oden is a much, much better player than Hansbrough, who travels almost as much as Kobe Bryant and gets away with it half the time in the Dean Dome.

OSU lost, Carolina won. End of story. ACC dominated,again, now shut up and quit making excuses.

Tyler Hansbrough=Sean May......both very good college players, but not NBA material.....way to slow.

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I don't think anyone is making excuses. It was said that Oden would not make a big difference and that is definitely false. The ACC is always very strong in basketball. The Big 10 is very good as well, I would guess they have had more final 4 teams in the last 10 years than any conference. Not willing to bet on it though as I am not looking up facts. I just know the Big 10 has had a few years of 2 teams in the final four.ACC has won the challenge every year, haven't they? I would bet money on OSU getting to the final 4. Again, I definitely could be wrong, but if I had to bet on a team I would take OSU.

Old Man by the Sea wrote:

OSU lost, Carolina won. End of story. ACC dominated,again, now shut up and quit making excuses.

Yeah, I predicted UNC to win this one. Without Greg Oden, at North Carolina? Not too promising for the Buckeyes. That they were so close throughout the game is only either a testament to the Buckeyes amazing team, or evidence of an overrated UNC.

I didn't expect OSU to win, but saying Oden might not make a difference is idiotic. Greg Oden v. Tyler Hansbrough? I'm laughing--it's not a comparison down low.

I did not see the game last night, but thought I would add this to the discussion: Greg Oden and Tyler H actually matched up in high school at a game that was played in Indianapolis at Butler (Hinkle Fieldhouse) and that was televised on ESPN2. Oden's team (which also included Mike Conley) won the game and Oden (as a junior) pretty much dominated the inside. If Ohio State is competitive on the road against top-ranked competition now, without Oden, they will be very scary when Greg returns.

Can we ban Flagpole Willy for a few months if OSU wins the national titles for football and basketball??? I don't think I want to be around to hear that.

When was the last time a school did that? Can't think of any....

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someone wrote:

Can we ban Flagpole Willy for a few months if OSU wins the national titles for football and basketball??? I don't think I want to be around to hear that.

Just remember, even if they win every title in the NCAA and pro's.......they still live in Ohio.

someone wrote:

Can we ban Flagpole Willy for a few months if OSU wins the national titles for football and basketball??? I don't think I want to be around to hear that.

When was the last time a school did that? Can't think of any....

No need to be wary of me. Dauby is the one you need to watch out for. I'll come in with a couple "I told you so's", but that will be it pretty much. Besides, they could easily not win either, and even if they do win both, a bit of luck is involved in any title -- talent yes, but luck too -- well in team sports anyway. Someone wins an NCAA title in CC, and I won't call it luck -- unless the guy who was winning easily trips in the last few yards or something like that.

someone wrote:

I don't think anyone is making excuses. It was said that Oden would not make a big difference and that is definitely false.

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And it is definitely making excuses.

No it's not. It is saying OSU with Greg Oden is different than OSU without him. No one expected OSU to win, or needs to make excuses for them losing on the road without their best player.

Go away.

which part of that is making an excuse? If you look at the post where I said that, I said that I am not saying OSU would have won, but it would be a different game. Its the same way if you remove Hansborough from UNC for that game. UNC might still win, but they would play differently.Like I said, no one is making excuses. Are you saying that Oden wouldn't make a difference?

nopers wrote:

someone wrote:

I don't think anyone is making excuses. It was said that Oden would not make a big difference and that is definitely false.

And it is definitely making excuses.[/quote]

V6 wrote:

No it's not. It is saying OSU with Greg Oden is different than OSU without him. No one expected OSU to win, or needs to make excuses for them losing on the road without their best player.

Go away.

How many college games have you seen Oden play? Oh, thats right. So I'm sure a frosh playing against a top ACC team would have dominated. OSU with Oden is NOT better than UNC, and that will be conclusively demonstrated over the course of this year.

ACC basketball isn't high school. Remember, Shav Randolph was supposed to dominate the ACC and what happened there?

They were overrated at #1, get over it. OSU has no shot at the national title, and will be out of the top 10 at years end. Nice program, nowhere near dominant.

You heard it here first.

Yes, we heard your baseless opinion here first. Give Ohio State the respect they deserve. Do you know how hard it is to win a road game against the ACC, let alone NORTH CAROLINA, and without your best player? I think as close as it was spells very good things for Ohio State. The only person who would say otherwise is a Tar Heel fan that feels that I'm demeaning the UNC victory. I'm not taking it down at all--it's good that they won. They are a good team. But it would be a different game if Oden was in there. It's not like he'd just go into fetal position under the basket and cry while Hansbrough dunked over him. He has played basketball before. He is over seven feet tall, very built, and a bruiser. He isn't going to sit back and be a nonfactor.

By the way, are you telling me that by the way a guy like LeBron James played in high school--so well that he was the #1 pick in the draft--you would've QUESTIONED whether he'd be good at the collegiate level? He was dominant in his rookie year in the NBA, as Oden most likely would've been. Quite being dumb. Give Oden and OSU the respect they deserve. They were big underdogs and nearly pulled it out.

osu is a great team...but you have ABSOLUTELY no basis to say that oden is your best player, he has about 0 minutes of collegiate experience, he may turn out to be the best player in the nation this year, but at this point NOBODY KNOWS

im not sayin he isnt a great player, because we all know that he is somethin special

but still, wait until he plays a game before you make that judgement call

With Greg Oden, OSU 110- UNC 85. UNC doesn't even get out of the Southeast Regional come March.