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    JimFiore

    Member since 07/23/2002.

    2,384 posts. Last post 11 years ago.
    21 years ago 09/12/2002 2:24am EDT

    Has anyone had problems with RRN? The newsletter is interesting enough (some things I find hard to swallow- Owen certainly isn't a Lydiard/Daniels kind of guy), but I always seem to have ordering problems. It took almost 2 months to get my subscription started and I have trouble getting back issues. For example, I ordered one earlier this summer, never received it and sent a reminder e-mail in late July. At the end of July my credit card was charged, but nothing arrived. I sent a reminder in mid-late August, but still nothing. Is this normal operating procedure or have I just been unlucky?

  • waterrat

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    21 years ago 09/12/2002 7:29am EDT
    re: JimFiore

    I had a similar problem and dropped my subscription. Definitely a different philosophy than you find on Lets Run. Personally, I've been getting better results by just increasing the miles.

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    oldguy

    Member since 07/02/2002.

    2,319 posts. Last post 17 years ago.
    21 years ago 09/12/2002 8:58am EDT
    re: waterrat

    I've never subscribed to his newsletter. Since I have yet to read anything from him that suggests to me that he knows what he is talking about, I wouldn't be too concerned about missing any issues.

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    JimFiore

    Member since 07/23/2002.

    2,384 posts. Last post 11 years ago.
    21 years ago 09/12/2002 10:55am EDT
    re: waterrat

    Similar problem, eh? So it's not just bad luck. I simply cannot abide by someone who runs a business this way. Looks like this subscription isn't getting renewed.

    Question: Does anyone know what Owen's PhD is in? One would _assume_ it's in exercise physiology, but he never states that, so I'm wondering...

  • Beefed

    Anonymous Poster

    21 years ago 09/12/2002 2:53pm EDT
    re: JimFiore

    Botany

  • inquiringminds

    Anonymous Poster

    21 years ago 09/12/2002 11:57pm EDT
    re: JimFiore

    I own every newsletter that the guy ever put out up until April 02. At this point I will let it run out because he ia always late or not in a timely fashion (receiving issues dated 2001 well into this year, 3-6 months behind schedule) & the cost of the subscription which now out weighs the information that he supplies. The last straw came when I received a letter stating that my yearly subscription was to run out it's term. This was in July only nine months after I had renewed in Oct. I enjoyed the newsletter but it seemed lately like it was so far out on the high intensity side of things I questioned who could train like this day after day week after week.

  • John P.

    Anonymous Poster

    21 years ago 09/13/2002 3:30am EDT
    re: inquiringminds

    From experience, I agree with "inquiringminds" about too much high intensity. I remember several yrs ago when Owen wrote an article for RW suggesting that one ought not to be so quick to up the mileage until they got the intensity up to a certain percentage of their current mileage, don't remember what the percentage was, but it sure seemed high to me.

    Anyway, took me about a year to get my training and racing turned around after I tried that....my subscrition to RW is now long gone, and I'm finally getting a decent base built. But I do like some of Eyestone's articles in RW, a huge improvement over Owen.

    John

  • Joe10kk

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    21 years ago 09/13/2002 1:56pm EDT
    re: John P.

    I own a book by Owens "lactate Lift-off". It is based on serious intensity verus base building, etc. weight training too. He points to a lot of research in the book, which usually studies only last for a short time anyways. think the book is very useful for the latter stages of a training cycle-spped, etc.

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