Her easy is mostly at about 8:00. I usually run my easy pace at about 6:10-6:20. She seems to like me and I like her a bit; I'm currently single. How should I run at 8:00 pace while not making it too apparent I'm jogging and not trying much?
You know, you could just ask her on a date instead.
Hand her the lactate meter and tell her to prick your earlobe at each mile. It better be under 1mmol, and maybe OP will learn how to do easy runs correctly
How does this post have more downvotes than upvotes? It's a completely sane reply with good advice.
Well lots of peeps here don’t like Flagpole.
Also, it does come across as mildly condescending the ‘she knows that 8:00 is very slow for you’ if pretty head up your ass elitest. I’ve run with half a dozen or more guys that have run 1:05 half or better and all of them were fine running 8:00 pace or slower without making posts about on Letsrun.
Meanwhile, I know lots of 1:25 half marathoners who are also fine running 7-7:30 pace or faster on a regular basis without dying. Why would he need to tell her he’s 1:07 half marathoner? 1:25 is 6:30 pace for 13 miles. They can comfortably run 7:30 for 6 miles or whatever.
The whole thing stinks of snobby letsrun elitism that Flagpole seems to embrace. Oh, definitely spend the whole time telling a girl you might be interested in that you’re a sub-sub-elite half marathoner and that’s your entire personality so she can find a more interesting dude to fvck.
Her easy is mostly at about 8:00. I usually run my easy pace at about 6:10-6:20. She seems to like me and I like her a bit; I'm currently single. How should I run at 8:00 pace while not making it too apparent I'm jogging and not trying much?
Dude, is this woman a STUPID person? If she's not, then she knows full well that 8:00 pace is very slow for you...unless she doesn't know you have run 1:07 for a half. Does she know that? I would assume so since you know her PR.
If she DOESN'T know that you are a 1:07 half guy, then you should probably tell her. Sounds like this could be the start of a relationship, so no need for you to pretend running with her is difficult. Honesty is the best policy.
She obviously wants to hang out with you. What is important to her is what happens after the run...go and get coffee, chat a bit...you know, see if the two of you are compatible.
No pretending.
How does this post have more downvotes than upvotes? It's a completely sane reply with good advice.
I appreciate the comment, brother. Not sure what the stats were when you posted this, but it's now 54 UP to 18 DOWN as of this writing, so the smart people came in later. :)
How does this post have more downvotes than upvotes? It's a completely sane reply with good advice.
I've run much faster than 1:07 and on easy days I'd be more than happy to log some miles at 8 min miles or slower if it means running with my girlfriend. Because (surprisingly), easy runs are for recovery. If you can't manage running a single easy run at 8 min miles then you have a serious problem, regardless of how 'slow' you are (1:07 lol).
Ok, but the OP didn't say he didn't want to run with her or that he couldn't imagine doing it. If he had said THAT, I would have had a different answer for him. Go back and read his initial post again.
How does this post have more downvotes than upvotes? It's a completely sane reply with good advice.
Well lots of peeps here don’t like Flagpole.
Also, it does come across as mildly condescending the ‘she knows that 8:00 is very slow for you’ if pretty head up your ass elitest. I’ve run with half a dozen or more guys that have run 1:05 half or better and all of them were fine running 8:00 pace or slower without making posts about on Letsrun.
Meanwhile, I know lots of 1:25 half marathoners who are also fine running 7-7:30 pace or faster on a regular basis without dying. Why would he need to tell her he’s 1:07 half marathoner? 1:25 is 6:30 pace for 13 miles. They can comfortably run 7:30 for 6 miles or whatever.
The whole thing stinks of snobby letsrun elitism that Flagpole seems to embrace. Oh, definitely spend the whole time telling a girl you might be interested in that you’re a sub-sub-elite half marathoner and that’s your entire personality so she can find a more interesting dude to fvck.
1) "People like me! They REALLY like me!"
2) Nothing is condescending there at all. 8:00 pace for a guy who is a current 1:07 half guy is very slow. That's just a fact. Not elitist at all. SOME guys who run 1:07 might want to do a recovery run at 8:00, but many others would find 7:00 and even a bit faster to be adequate there.
3) She didn't want to run 7:30. She wanted to run 8:00. Try to keep up.
4) I didn't tell him not to do the run with her (THAT would have been elitist...well, MABYE as 1:07 is good and all, but nothing to get elitist about). I told him not to pretend 8:00 pace was hard for him. Lots of not reading and understanding in this thread for some reason.
5) If they are about to start running together, she,...or ANY training partner should know who they are training with. She's a decent half runner for a woman, so she should understand. You know, not everything you say about yourself is bragging. In this case it would be necessary information. If he wanted to lead with what his typical training runs are like, that's a more humble way to go about it, but it's not wrong in any way to talk PRs when you are about to run with someone.
6) I am FAR from a snobby runner...not today, not ever. I have not and do not embrace running snobbery, because really, unless you are at LEAST national class, you can keep your pride to yourself. I told this guy not to pretend he was less talented than he is...that was the crux of my message. How is that snobbery? Do you think he SHOULD pretend an 8:00 training pace run is difficult? Weird.
Back when dinosaurs ruled the Earth I was a 68 minute half guy and there wasn't a single time I would run 8 minute miles. That seems incredibly slow to me. Having said that, if a nice lady wanted to run with me at that pace, I think I could figure out how to do it.
She should easily be able to do a few miles at 7:15 pace as a compromise if she really wants to run some with you (A 1:25 half is about 6:30 pace).
You should easily be able to do a few miles at 7:15 pace as a compromise if you really want to run some with her.
If both of you are unwilling to compromise to run together, you two are totally imcompatible.
There are ways they can work this out.
Her M pace is the slow end of his E pace. He runs a few miles easy then calls for her and they carry on for a few more. Shower and sex.
Her T pace doesn't have a natural equivalent for him, so shex runs alone that day. He poaches an egg.
Her I pace is equivalent to the faster end of his E pace. He runs a few miles easy, she warms up separately, and they meet at the track. He does a continuous easy run and she joins in for 800m at a time. Walking rest while he runs two more laps and catches her up, then she goes again, 8 times in total. She's tired after a hard interval session and goes home. He shakes hands with the milkman.
Her R pace is equivalent to his M pace. Same as above, only he does a continuous M pace run which she matches for 200m at a time, resting while he runs a lap and a half to catch her up, 16 times in total. Shower and sex.
How is this a problem that you can't work out the solution to on your own? If she wants to run with you, just run at her pace. Doing a couple miles at a slower easy pace than you typically do is not going to affect your overall training. Don't make this more complicated than it needs to be.