After watching that race I think Myers would benefit from running in the NCAA's
Ollie Hoare to race 1500m at Australian Championships next week (link to article)
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He definitely needs more racing experience, be that from NCAAs or by going on the circuit in Europe this year, I'm not sure.
He's still only 17 so he can go to the US next year if he chooses. Not sure what happens to his Nike contract though - I guess it could be changed to NIL?41 -
So there are no autos anymore - you just may be considered.
Thanks I didn't realise that. Hopefully it's a clause only used in the rare case the Nationals field is weak. Jess Hull post-race mentioned not racing the 5k "if everything is finalised tonight"...so it sounded like some of the winners will be getting selected asap?
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The Australian selection policies can be at best complicated and at worst mystifying. I know it's unpopular in some circles by I think a trials with qualifier is fairer.
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ACTyah wrote:
So there are no autos anymore - you just may be considered.
Thanks I didn't realise that. Hopefully it's a clause only used in the rare case the Nationals field is weak. Jess Hull post-race mentioned not racing the 5k "if everything is finalised tonight"...so it sounded like some of the winners will be getting selected asap?
Jess is unique in the sense that she has multiple repeat performances (including 4th at World Indoors), and is clearly head and shoulders above the other Australians in her event currently. If Linden had finished second I think they both would have been pre-selected, but now will likely just be Jess.
So yes - some of the team will be named after this meet, but there are no guarantees in the way the old system alluded to (suspect this is following the selection controversies with Bideau etc.). This is to give them wiggle room in situations like this - where a pre-meet favourite (Stewey) fails to podium.
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AUSposted wrote:
ACTyah wrote:
Thanks I didn't realise that. Hopefully it's a clause only used in the rare case the Nationals field is weak. Jess Hull post-race mentioned not racing the 5k "if everything is finalised tonight"...so it sounded like some of the winners will be getting selected asap?
Jess is unique in the sense that she has multiple repeat performances (including 4th at World Indoors), and is clearly head and shoulders above the other Australians in her event currently. If Linden had finished second I think they both would have been pre-selected, but now will likely just be Jess.
So yes - some of the team will be named after this meet, but there are no guarantees in the way the old system alluded to (suspect this is following the selection controversies with Bideau etc.). This is to give them wiggle room in situations like this - where a pre-meet favourite (Stewey) fails to podium.
As an aside - some of the decisions will now become even more interesting. Georgia clearly coming into form, but isn't ranked in the Road to Paris 1500. Abbey has moved to the 800 for these champs, there's depth there and no guarantees that she comes top 3 (Catriona, Benedere, Claudia could all mix it up).
With Jess saying she's only focusing on the 1500, that also opens up space in the 5000, and is probably music to Izzy Batt-Doyles ears as she was likely on the outside looking in for both 5k and marathon.
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People like Nic Bideau love the more ambiguous selection processes as his athletes don't need to bother with nationals and can focus on making cash in Europe.
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That Australia-UW Madison pipeline is strong, Morgan McDonald and Jackson Sharp are in the 5000m tomorrow as well.
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AUSposted wrote:
Jess is unique in the sense that she has multiple repeat performances (including 4th at World Indoors), and is clearly head and shoulders above the other Australians in her event currently. If Linden had finished second I think they both would have been pre-selected, but now will likely just be Jess.
So yes - some of the team will be named after this meet, but there are no guarantees in the way the old system alluded to (suspect this is following the selection controversies with Bideau etc.). This is to give them wiggle room in situations like this - where a pre-meet favourite (Stewey) fails to podium.
Jess Hull looked amazing so strong
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ACTyah wrote:
Great race. Myers tripped up a bunch and will learn from that. Ollie was boxed in on the back straight and will be kicking himself he didn't get out earlier because Stewy was always going to get swarmed.
I'm a big Stewy fan but he just can't win championships like this--- MTC strength-based training not working for him anymore?
Selection is going to be hard. Ollie can run fast and kick, so a medal chance. Spencer is auto.
Jessie Hunt could make a case if he gets his PB down to say 3.31/2?
Per AA Policy re: Phase 1 nominations:
"Athlete must have finished in the top two (2) Australian places at the 2024 Australian Track
and Field Championships in their event but are not compelled to nominate both
first and second placegetters. For the avoidance of doubt, international athletes
competing at the 2024 Australian Track and Field Championships will not be
considered for the purposes of ranking athletes in each event under this clause"So there are no autos anymore - you just may be considered.
Will Ollie still run the 5000 here?
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AUSposted wrote:
ACTyah wrote:
Great race. Myers tripped up a bunch and will learn from that. Ollie was boxed in on the back straight and will be kicking himself he didn't get out earlier because Stewy was always going to get swarmed.
I'm a big Stewy fan but he just can't win championships like this--- MTC strength-based training not working for him anymore?
Selection is going to be hard. Ollie can run fast and kick, so a medal chance. Spencer is auto.
Jessie Hunt could make a case if he gets his PB down to say 3.31/2?
Per AA Policy re: Phase 1 nominations:
"Athlete must have finished in the top two (2) Australian places at the 2024 Australian Track
and Field Championships in their event but are not compelled to nominate both
first and second placegetters. For the avoidance of doubt, international athletes
competing at the 2024 Australian Track and Field Championships will not be
considered for the purposes of ranking athletes in each event under this clause"So there are no autos anymore - you just may be considered.
Will Ollie still run the 5000 here?
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20minutes till race time wrote:
After watching that race I think Myers would benefit from running in the NCAA's
He can get plenty of racing experience without NCAAs
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Flip Flop wrote:
Spencer will win
You were told
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Australian Championships
SA Athletic Stadium, Adelaide (AUS)
11–14 APR 2024
Men's 5000 Metres Final
PLACE NAME MARK
1. Matthew RAMSDEN 13:39.61
2. Morgan MCDONALD 13:39.66
3. Jackson SHARP 13:39.82
4. Toby GILLEN 13:40.11
5. Ky ROBINSON 13:40.22
6. Jack RAYNER 13:41.17
7. Zachary FACIONI 13:44.64
8. Callum DAVIES 13:47.20
Men's 1500 Metres Final
PLACE NAME MARK
1. Adam SPENCER 3:37.68
2. Oliver HOARE 3:37.83
3. Jesse HUNT 3:37.88
4. Stewart MCSWEYN 3:38.66
5. Cameron MYERS 3:38.74
6. Jack ANSTEY 3:38.94
7. Callum DAVIES 3:39.56
8. Luke SHAW 3:42.97
9. Sam BLAKE 3:43.39
10. Jhye HADFIELD 3:44.88
Men's 800 Metres Final
PLACE NAME MARK
1. Luke BOYES 1:44.73
2. Peter BOL 1:45.06
3. Peyton CRAIG 1:45.76
4. Jack LUNN 1:46.92
5. Lachlan RAPER 1:47.53
6. Mason COHEN 1:47.58
7. Dylan STENSON 1:48.34
8. Obssa YOUSSOUF 1:48.65
Women's 5000 Metres Final
PLACE NAME MARK
1. Rose DAVIES 15:21.62
2. Lauren RYAN 15:24.95
3. Maudie SKYRING 15:25.58
4. Isobel BATT-DOYLE 15:26.72
5. Jenny BLUNDELL 15:31.22
6. Leanne POMPEANI 15:32.72
7. Natalie RULE 15:33.95
8. Genevieve GREGSON 15:40.85
9. Amy BUNNAGE 15:49.17
Women's 1500 Metres Final
PLACE NAME MARK
1. Jessica HULL 4:01.39
2. Georgia GRIFFITH 4:03.68
3. Linden HALL 4:05.03
4. Sarah BILLINGS 4:08.15
5. Jaylah HANCOCK-CAMERON 4:13.88
6. Leah SIMPSON 4:20.39
7. Zoe TOLAND 4:20.59
8. Isabella THORNTON-BOTT 4:22.17
9. Stephanie KELLY 4:23.21
Women's 800 Metres Final
PLACE NAME MARK
1. Claudia HOLLINGSWORTH 1:58.40
2. Abbey CALDWELL 1:59.01
3. Bendere OBOYA 1:59.33
4. Catriona BISSET 1:59.87
5. Hayley KITCHING 2:00.70
6. Imogen BARRETT 2:03.33
7. Leah SIMPSON 2:03.72
8. Lora ROFF 2:04.01
9. Sophia HANLON 2:04.9220
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