If you have a great job and/or money then the possibilities are endless. No age dating range, almost no (single) woman is off limits and even some women in relationships (not married) are fair game. Good times.
If you don't then this is what to expect, mostly. The dregs. Almost all the single women in your age dating range are divorced, almost all have kids. Most of these women are 5s or 6s tops but they are getting hundreds of messages on these dating apps, mostly from simps, so they think they are 10s. Don't date single mothers. If the kids are gone then play ball, if the kids are old enough to look after themselves then be cautious still. Don't get married again.
Hundreds of messages? Lol Try thousands of messages a lot of these women are getting on dating apps/social media.
I had a lady friend at my gym who was in her late 40s, an accomplishment marathon runner & fitness enthusiast, gorgeous body & not bad looking but definitely looked older than her age with sun damaged skin & the like.
She's a 2x divorcee & no kids. After a little bit of a recovery period from her 2nd divorce, she created a profile on a popular dating app: She had thousands of likes & messages from guys willing to say or do anything to get with her! And the astonishing thing is a lot of these dudes hitting on her are good looking guys half her age! 😲 Of course, this inflated her ego off the charts & she now thinks she the hottest chick in the gym now. Lol
Simps have ruined everything on these dating apps. I can't believe twentysomething dudes would want to get with over-the-hill middle-aged women. Lol. Crazy world we live in these days!
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"great job and/or money then the possibilities are endless"
what do you consider the threshold in terms of net worth percentile? and how do you advertise you're in that class without coming across like an a-hole?
Get your act together just as others have suggested. Be classy, confident, funny (if you can) but not too bold. Stuff like nice car etc helps for sure, but be nonchalant about it. Hang out at classy places (gym, bars, etc). Look for the same attributes in the other person. Classy, confident, but not too bold.
Threads like that bring out the worst and best of LRC. Really loving it.
How I primarily meet new women is specifically cold and out of the blue. it’s one of the most nerve racking things you can do, but it settles it right away either you get a date or you don’t and you don’t have to overthink anything
You're talking cold approach...right? Isn't this what most of the dating coaches/PUAs teach?
How has it worked for you? Is there certain places that you cold approach at? What are some of the things you say to break the ice? Do you approach women that meet your looks match or do you shoot for the hot ones right off the bat?
I divorced after 32 years of marriage at 56. I got on match as a "joke"- some guy said it didn't work so I made a profile and actually met a woman I dated for over 3 years.
She said what she liked was that I was authentic and "humble"- I just stated my interests and didn't "brag" about them.
My pictures were recent and unfiltered- I was fully clothed (some guys think women are impressed by shirtless photos). She, mentioned (mind of as joke but she was serious) that I wasn't holding a dead deer by the horns or holding a dead fish dangling from a line- no dead animals.
Obviously if you're conservative you'll have a hard time attracting a young woman- I'm sorry but most women see that as a red, very red, flag. Show that you have empathy and care for others- people and animals.
Why get married again? Why settle down, be exclusive, and draw out all the other baggage that comes with attaching yourself to someone? As a married man, I don’t see the benefit. Marriage only makes sense in the context of child-rearing.
Meeting someone who is your perfect match is next to impossible. But let’s say you do win the lottery, once you’ve spent several years with that person, the passion will start to decline. You might have great mutual respect and even love for each other, but the physical attraction will wear off and you’ll start to notice other women a lot more (even if you don’t want to). Time and co-habitation kill off the spark.
There are many people who stay together but are not really happy. They’ll stay together either for the kids or out of a sense of moral duty or out of a fear of loneliness (lack of options). We are, like it or not, social creatures but do we need to pair bond in order to satisfy that drive? Can we not get that from our friendships and our hook-ups? What’s wrong with hopping from one affair to another? Isn’t variety a basic human need as well?
Another thought…even though we are social creatures, is it possible to reach a point where we don’t depend on anyone else in order to make it through life without drowning in despair? Can religion /mysticism give us that? Can a rugged, Emersonian, individualism give us that?
I heard 70 old men are in short supply at retirement communities. Just check out all the 55 and over Margaritaville real estate places being built. Panama City Beach one has a two year waiting list. Nothing but widows and newly divorced women fighting for old dudes.
Because there is nothing more sad than a 70 year old man with nobody.
I think we confuse companionship with meaning in our life. It’s important that a 70 year old still have something that brings fulfillment to their life.
Being with someone that you’re no longer attracted to and are likely not fully compatible with, to feel trapped in that situation, only because you need someone beside you to justify your existence is even sadder.
I’m not playing down the importance of relationships. I’m wondering if it might be possible to have those relationships outside of marriage. Granted, we would need to restructure society in order to make this more realistic but it’s crazy how we got into this mess to begin with.
I still can't believe this. Were there far fewer incels then?
Oh there were plenty. I was able to screen for that before actually meeting in "real life" though. We actually just started as Facebook friends and I was able to see that we had many mutual friends already. We were actually in different states at the time and had no romantic interest in each other at first. I guess that's in line with my general advice on dating. Meet through a common interest and/or friends and be open to just meeting new people without necessarily expecting something romantic/sexual from them. I also feel like too many people are stuck on their "checklist" before even meeting someone. Instead of focusing on what you can GET from a partner, work on what you can GIVE.
Right here is the best advice you can get. And it's worked for her (and for her husband).
For most women, the most important factors are facial features and personality. The good news for men is that the best facial features: eyes, lips, and jawline all tend to stay similar or get better with age. If you're weak in the latter two, growing a beard will help; if not I would stay clean-shaven or trimmed. Don't underestimate the power of good skincare (including lips) and eye care. Biotin, fish oils, and omega-3 are not just for women, they work just as well on men. At the very least you should be eating a well-rounded diet and washing/moisturizing your face on a daily basis.
Personality is very subjective, but as long as you are genuine you will only attract women with a compatible personality to yours. That said, the most commonly desired traits are: confidence, independence, empathy, integrity, and passion. If you have those four, many women will be willing to overlook other flaws. Everything in moderation of course; nobody likes an arrogant, standoffish, weepy, overly honest, or obsessive person. This includes women.
A lot of people are going to mention financial status here. This does matter to some women for sure. Financial status tends to be a matter of independence and integrity, so that mostly takes care of itself. The majority of women do not care if you are a multimillionaire, but being financially stable (no debt, good savings, in a well-paid and reliable professional career) is pretty much essential at your age. Girls often overlook it as they lack experience in the real world, but no desirable woman over 25 will want to date or marry a leech.
Body type often gets thrown around, especially around height and fitness. This is even more subjective than personality. However, most women tend to want a man that is taller than them and not obese. This is not universal but applies to the majority. Being 190cm, you likely won't receive any judgment for your height from 90+% of women, so that's not an issue. You're not obese either. This means that there will be a large number of women that are interested in your body type. The key now is to make sure it's something sustainable for you (don't take steroids or develop an eating disorder to create a certain figure).
I'll also add as far as body type goes, your clothes matter just as much as what's underneath. Get your suits tailored by someone who knows what they're doing. Make sure everything fits well and is fashionable, but not trendy (unless you want to spend a lot of money updating your wardrobe every year). Don't be a Conor McGregor, but wear styles that accentuate your features and make you look distinguished and put-together.
Do all these things, and increase the amount of time you spend socializing - at bars with friends, at local races, at community events, at work, at concerts, at sports games, etc. - and you will attract people.
Do all these things, and increase the amount of time you spend socializing - at bars with friends, at local races, at community events, at work, at concerts, at sports games, etc. - and you will attract people.
This is easier said than done. Most competitive runners are introverts.
Because there is nothing more sad than a 70 year old man with nobody.
I think we confuse companionship with meaning in our life. It’s important that a 70 year old still have something that brings fulfillment to their life.
Being with someone that you’re no longer attracted to and are likely not fully compatible with, to feel trapped in that situation, only because you need someone beside you to justify your existence is even sadder.
I’m not playing down the importance of relationships. I’m wondering if it might be possible to have those relationships outside of marriage. Granted, we would need to restructure society in order to make this more realistic but it’s crazy how we got into this mess to begin with.
lol ok so if ALLL we have to do reorganize human society to make your situation make sense.. yeah sounds like a GREAT plan.. lol
You might be old with no wife, no children, and no steady gf.. but when you are old you spend a lot time needing medical care, even a healthy older person needs more than a young person. Who's helping you go to the doctor, who's driving you there, who is concerned that you take the right meds?