When I ran in the Nike pegasus turbo 2 my legs felt recovered and less beat up, but in new shoes even the vaporfly 3 I don't get that same benefit. What changed?
New Nike shoes don't feel the same
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You may have gotten used to the shoes
Nike may also have reduced the foam quality by making it cheaper
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Pushed harder in the vaporfly
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I believe it's the stack height of the zoomx that is affecting the way people perceive the foam. Initially, the PEBA foam used was no more than 31mm thick which made it very easy to compress. The turbo 2 would have had half that plus some react beneath. Now at 40mm, it takes a lot more weight/force to get the same compression. I believe in the Vaporfly 3 and Alphafly 3, Nike has softened the foam and kept the 40mm stack height, but the foam feels softer like it did in the OG zoomx shoes.
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They now much cheaper materials and upped the price
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shoes getting worse wrote:
When I ran in the Nike pegasus turbo 2 my legs felt recovered and less beat up, but in new shoes even the vaporfly 3 I don't get that same benefit. What changed?
You are fully entitled to your opinion, but that has to be one of the most extremely unique takes I've seen.
Peg turbos are junk bricks compared to the vaporfly 1 & 3, in my personal experience.
The eventual sore feet feeling in every brand's flagship heavy/mass production/durable outsole daily trainer is just, gone, in the high stack pebax shoes.
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Cushioning and Support: The Pegasus Turbo 2 is known for its lightweight and which may provide a softer landing and better shock absorption compared to other shoes like the Vaporfly 3, which are designed with a focus on energy return and propulsion.Drop and Stack Height: The drop (height difference between the heel and forefoot) and stack height (total thickness of the midsole and outsole) of a shoe can affect how your legs feel during and after .can influence your running mechanics, including foot strike pattern, stride length, and cadence. The way your body adapts to these changes can affect how your legs feel during and after running.
Ultimately, individual preferences and biomechanics play a significant role in how shoes feel and perform for each runner.
If you find that the Vaporfly 3 or other shoes are not providing the same recovery benefits as the Pegasus Turbo 2, you may want to consider trying different models or returning to the Pegasus Turbo 2 for your recovery runs. I
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I’ve always disliked Nike trainers but found their racing shoes to be better. Now, I mainly run easy in brooks, tempo in vaporfly, and race in cloud spike 10000
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It's not uncommon for shoe manufacturers to adjust their materials and pricing strategies over time due to various factors such as changes in production costs, market demand, and advancements in technology. While some changes may result in cost savings for the manufacturer, others may be aimed at enhancing the performance or of the shoe.
However, it's essential for consumers to carefully evaluate whether any changes in materials or pricing align with their expectations and needs. Cheaper materials may sometimes lead to compromises in quality or performance, while price increases can affect the affordability and value proposition of the product.
As a consumer, it's crucial to stay informed about the products you're interested in, read reviews, and consider factors beyond just the price tag, such as , and performance. Additionally, exploring alternative options and comparing prices from different retailers can help ensure you're getting the best deal possible without sacrificing quality.12 -
Nike foams have always been inferior to some of it's competitors, lacking quality by a large margin. Plate position is very important though. Some foams work better with certain positions.
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James Harkins wrote:
Cushioning and Support: The Pegasus Turbo 2 is known for its lightweight and which may provide a softer landing and better shock absorption compared to other shoes like the Vaporfly 3, which are designed with a focus on energy return and propulsion.Drop and Stack Height: The drop (height difference between the heel and forefoot) and stack height (total thickness of the midsole and outsole) of a shoe can affect how your legs feel during and after .can influence your running mechanics, including foot strike pattern, stride length, and cadence. The way your body adapts to these changes can affect how your legs feel during and after running.Ultimately, individual preferences and biomechanics play a significant role in how shoes feel and perform for each runner.
If you find that the Vaporfly 3 or other shoes are not providing the same recovery benefits as the Pegasus Turbo 2, you may want to consider trying different models or returning to the Pegasus Turbo 2 for your recovery runs. I
Well hello, ChatGPT.
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If you really liked the pegasus turbo why don't you try to get them on discount and go back to those? Later versions of trainers aren't always better, they're sometimes disappointing and not as good unfortunately. I found this with nike free versions too.
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