You're lying and are trying to deflect and bring up Florida because California was brought up. There is no mass exodus in Florida. The politics in Florida are what has your feathers ruffled. Sad.
Agree. runn needs to pull his head out if he thinks people will pay more to live in FL vs CA. Everything costs more in CA. Electic utility rate (avg) in CA = 29.9cents/kwh, Fl = 14.6cents/kwh, average gasoline cost in CA = 4.56/gal, FL = 3.11/gal. It just goes on and on and on.
Runn does this every thread. He's trying to compare Florida to California and believes the garbage he spews. Florida is 180 of what he claims. He's made because it's a republican run state and he's trying to deflect from the mess California is in. Embarrassing as he does it every thread but gets special treatment.
This is just another dumb "debate". Blue state or Red state makes no difference. Anywhere with desirable weather, cultural features, and the ability to make money eventually gets overrun and expensive. Sure, you can buy a decent house in Lima, OH or Anaconda, MT for less than $250K, but what are you doing for work? Entertainment? Can you only enjoy the outdoors for 3-4 months a year?
Florida, Texas, and California have pockets of awesome but also wide swaths of suck. No state is a 100% amazing paradise of bountiful opportunity, beautiful people, and easy fun.
As reported in the NY Times recently, state officials said it is not welcome news but the state has ample reserves to cover it, and core programs will not be cut.
Link available upon request.
They have 23 billion in reserves. Enough for now. But the projections are for next year, and that won't cover the 68 billion. No link necessary, every credible outlet stated it in every article about this. But that may not include the NY times of course.
As reported in the NY Times recently, state officials said it is not welcome news but the state has ample reserves to cover it, and core programs will not be cut.
Link available upon request.
They have 23 billion in reserves. Enough for now. But the projections are for next year, and that won't cover the 68 billion. No link necessary, every credible outlet stated it in every article about this. But that may not include the NY times of course.
To be fair, even the NY Times article did specifically say that adjustments to spending would most definitely need to be made and that it would not be easy and was not expected.
The problem is Democrats run away from the consequences of their own votes and then they go to places like Oregon, Arizona, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas and others and get busy trying to destroy those states as well.
Like locusts. They destroy their environment then move on to the next area to destroy. Currently, they are destroying western Idaho.
How many $B have been wasted on the high speed train that will go from nowhere to nowhere?
so the first 171 mile stretch for that key (and flat) commute route between Bakersfield and Merced is now up to about $30B or so and is about $10B beyond secured funding....Somehow they think they can complete SF to LA (and going through 40 miles of mountains) for maybe $100-125B. Can you say "Money Pit"?
California officials have only identified about $25 billion of the roughly $100 billion needed to finish the routes from LA to Las Vegas and San Francisco, respectively.
This is just another dumb "debate". Blue state or Red state makes no difference. Anywhere with desirable weather, cultural features, and the ability to make money eventually gets overrun and expensive. Sure, you can buy a decent house in Lima, OH or Anaconda, MT for less than $250K, but what are you doing for work? Entertainment? Can you only enjoy the outdoors for 3-4 months a year?
Florida, Texas, and California have pockets of awesome but also wide swaths of suck. No state is a 100% amazing paradise of bountiful opportunity, beautiful people, and easy fun.
They're just modern day Okies, but in reverse. Can't feed themselves staying where they were, no backup plan, so they hightail it to some podunk destination.
The problem is Democrats run away from the consequences of their own votes and then they go to places like Oregon, Arizona, Georgia, Tennessee, Texas and others and get busy trying to destroy those states as well.
Like locusts. They destroy their environment then move on to the next area to destroy. Currently, they are destroying western Idaho.
Yep, and it sucks. Main reason I left CO is because of all the Left coast transplants. They leave with their ridiculous and ill-conceived pensions that have hamstrung their native states, but crime, drugs, tent cities, and very bad public schools are soon to follow because they bring their policies with them. But they are too stupid and pig-headed to figure it out. Busy spending money to address problems they ultimately make worse. Complete idiots.
Yep, and it sucks. Main reason I left CO is because of all the Left coast transplants. They leave with their ridiculous and ill-conceived pensions that have hamstrung their native states, but crime, drugs, tent cities, and very bad public schools are soon to follow because they bring their policies with them. But they are too stupid and pig-headed to figure it out. Busy spending money to address problems they ultimately make worse. Complete idiots.
Where are you planning to go once you leave California?
where it rarely snows, gets incredibly hot, or gets destructive storms, and near a decent size city - that is as specific as I will get - but it does eliminate most of the U.S.
The "RB" stood for Redondo Beach but that no longer applies....let's just say I am well east of there now.
Where are you planning to go once you leave California?
where it rarely snows, gets incredibly hot, or gets destructive storms, and near a decent size city - that is as specific as I will get - but it does eliminate most of the U.S.
Pls dont bring ur lib bs to texas, it's shocking how many people have fled Cali to texas and keep their f'd up views that ruined their state.
where it rarely snows, gets incredibly hot, or gets destructive storms, and near a decent size city - that is as specific as I will get - but it does eliminate most of the U.S.
Pls dont bring ur lib bs to texas, it's shocking how many people have fled Cali to texas and keep their f'd up views that ruined their state.
Maybe not a huge factor but I am sure the rise of working from home has probably accelerated this exodus at least a bit. There is no longer a need to live close to where you work. Wealthy and educated have more opportunities to work fully remote.
Literally everyone in the world thinks the problems in their city/state are solely caused by the mayor or local government.
People in California think that, people in Mexico City think that, people in Sao Paulo think that, people in London think that, people in Paris think that, people in Tokyo think that, people in Sydney think that.
Can't we join the dots and realize the global/western economy is totally screwed, it's got nothing to do with whether your provincial mayor wears a blue or a red rosette.
State budget analysts recently projected a record $68-billion deficit in the next fiscal year thanks to a 25% drop in personal income tax collection in 2023 as wealthy and educated leave California.
You can always count on people to turn any negative story into a confirmation of their worldview. California has a significant budget deficit, therefore, the people in this thread say, all the rich people must have suddenly departed en mass because taxes are too high. Do they pause to think how ridiculous that sounds? Of course not.
The CA Office of the Legislative Analyst (a nonpartisan fiscal agency) is what most of these stories are citing. Does the LAO blame the budget deficit on an exodus of rich people? They do not! What DO they cite as the reason for the shortfall?
1. Errors in budgeting. The state conformed with federal tax filing extensions, and so did not realize that income tax revenues were falling until after the last fiscal year had already ended. So they adopted a budget that was out of wack with revenue. i.e. They increased spending too much.
2. Federal Reserve policies have an outsized impact on CA because of the state's reliance on income/capital gains taxes. If you rely too much on these taxes, you are more susceptible to market swings. Fed actions made borrowing more expensive and reduced investment over the last couple years, which has an outsized impact on a state like CA. They got a lot less money from rich people, but obviously not because all them left. (The state had a huge budget surplus just two years ago because of a surge in asset prices created by pandemic stimulus. They should have saved that surplus in anticipation of future revenue swings, but instead much of it was spent or devoted to tax relief.)
You can argue that taxes are too high/volatile but lets stop just making sh*t up.
The FACT is that people are leaving CA. But it isn't the rich, it's the people who can't afford the high housing costs. Because of high housing prices, California homeowners are actually moving LESS. The state is in desperate need of addressing their housing supply issue. Everyone knows this, and yet the number of new building permits hasn't changed in over a decade.