Kenzie Doyle = Most Improved NCAA female???

bad years wrote:

redbull71 wrote:

I’m curious what your connection to Lowell is/how you came to this conclusion. You’re right about the roster size and Lowell definitely does to high mileage and intense workouts.

Getting hurt or “burnt out” is almost always just a product of bad habits outside of running. Find me someone at the highest level of the sport who’s never been injured. If you want to be the best you have to train hard. Everyone loves to say oh look at Ingebrigsten, he trains very easy and never overdoes it. He still trains harder than 99% of people on LetsRun could even think of training. Even if Doyle gets injured, she will be fine eventually.

Kaley Richards and Emily Sessa both did not get burnt out. Richards chose not to run post-college and Sessa literally ran a PR during her last college race. How is that burning out? Kaley was injured the year before finishing 4th at NCAAs. Not burnt out.

Lowell is one of the biggest meat grinder programs in the NCAA. Massive roster (at least 45 men) redshirting everyone, high mileage, and a lot of people having terrible 4th and 5th years because of the overtraining.

Kaley didn't even qualify for NCAAs her senior year after 4th the year before, so saying she burned out for her last year is harsh but not inaccurate.

Binghamton does a better job of developing athletes and producing elite runners than Lowell, and Binghamton distance has only 20% of the scholarships that Lowell has.

Flow Rider wrote:

bad years wrote:

Lowell is one of the biggest meat grinder programs in the NCAA. Massive roster (at least 45 men) redshirting everyone, high mileage, and a lot of people having terrible 4th and 5th years because of the overtraining.

Kaley didn't even qualify for NCAAs her senior year after 4th the year before, so saying she burned out for her last year is harsh but not inaccurate.

Binghamton does a better job of developing athletes and producing elite runners than Lowell, and Binghamton distance has only 20% of the scholarships that Lowell has.

Let's at least speak of actual things. Here are their respective annual spends in T&F/XC scholarships:

UMASS Lowell: women- $643,112 / men- $565,795

Binghamton: women- $427,026 / men- $320,748

You can argue if you want, but publicly available records say you're wrong. Both seem to be built proportionally balanced between event specialties. Maybe you possess secret knowledge. I'm open to learning.....

Flow Rider wrote:

bad years wrote:

Lowell is one of the biggest meat grinder programs in the NCAA. Massive roster (at least 45 men) redshirting everyone, high mileage, and a lot of people having terrible 4th and 5th years because of the overtraining.

Kaley didn't even qualify for NCAAs her senior year after 4th the year before, so saying she burned out for her last year is harsh but not inaccurate.

Binghamton does a better job of developing athletes and producing elite runners than Lowell, and Binghamton distance has only 20% of the scholarships that Lowell has.

Let's at least speak of actual things. Here are their respective annual spends in T&F/XC scholarships:

UMASS Lowell: women- $643,112 / men- $565,795

Binghamton: women- $427,026 / men- $320,748

You can argue if you want, but publicly available records say you're wrong. Both seem to be built proportionally balanced between event specialties. Maybe you possess secret knowledge. I'm open to learning.....