Official Idaho 2024 Track Thread

Rocky sophomores and under
Soph Kurtz - 4:26
Soph Tuft 4:36
Frosh Majors 4:36
Soph Miller 4:41
Frosh Davis 4:47
Frosh Loscher 4:50
Frosh Clark 4:53

Big PR's for the Rocky 3200 runners as well Beck Miller dropped 12 seconds And Pinegar Dropped 14 seconds.

Lots of good freshmen talent in the valley.

Bruce, McGee, Anderson, Culpepper, Majors, Evans, Butterfield, Mattox... Those are all the sub 4:50/10:30 freshmen in 5A.

Plus there's Pelham and Hillam in lower classifications.

Underclassman top 5 1600s from fastest average to slowest

Mountain View 4:27/4:30/4:32/4:39/4:47 - 4:35 avg

Rocky 4:26/4:36/4:36/4:41/4:47 - 4:37 avg

CDA 4:19/4:26/4:34/4:56/4:57 - 4:38 avg

Timberline 4:44/4:45/4:46/4:48/4:50 - 4:46 avg

Centennial 4:34/4:39/4:47/4:53/5:02 - 4:47 avg

Boise 4:40/4:46/4:47/4:54/4:58 - 4:49 avg

Twilight just had a ton of good performances across the board with big PRs. The girls 1600 was the really big one.

Girls 1600:
Stevens- 6 seconds
Reeder- 8 seconds
Hamm- 11 seconds
Matthews- 10 seconds
Thompson- 16 seconds
Baruch- 4 seconds
Glenn- 12 seconds
Burdick- 6 seconds
When 8 of the top 9 have PR's that are on average 9 seconds... that's huge. 10 of the top 12 had personal records.

15 of the top 20 boys had personal bests in the 1600. Mountain View having 3 guys sub 4:25, a 4:27, a 4:30 is crazy.

Right now, 42 boys have the district 1600 mark. I would imagine that Johansson, Riley, Stevens, McOmber, Blaser, Reed, and maybe Majors won't seed at districts. If there are two equal sized fields, it puts the right at 4:30. If two more don't see, it puts the break either right before or right after Sam Jensen.

47 boys have the 800m mark. That one is a ton harder to project, but I would guess that Heemeyer, Ringert, Sheesley, Burdick, Ihmels, Carlson, Kurtz, Marlatt, Jensen, Donahue, Antonnen, Richardson, Orton, and Chamberlain are all possibilities to not seed. Two equal sized fields would put the break after Fife, who is the last sub 2 boy in the field. I have no idea what they will do if the 800 doesn't scratch down a ton.

The 3200m has 41 boys in it. There might be only a handful that don't seed, so are they going to break the race in two? 36 boys would be crazy to have in a race and likely lead to the same mayhem as last year where boys were getting DQ'd for running over the line. The break could very well come down to between Vandahlen and Jensen at 9:54.20 vs 9:54.30.

The girls 800 is impossible to predict.

The 1600 is a bit easier. If 2 girls don't seed, Baruch is the fastest seed not in the fast heat at 5:19. If 4 don't seed, it should put Thompson as the fastest to not get into the fast heat at 5:18. I don't know that I see 4 girls that won't run the 1600 at districts, unless some girls guess that they might have a better shot fresh in the 800 vs girls doubling back from the 1600.

I think that CDA is a threat to win the NW, and Rocky can get top 2-3.

CDA is pretty self explanatory. But reading this thread, there are people saying they don't think Rocky will podium at state, let alone NXR.

Going into '22 XC (Rocky ranked 10th on Dyestat end of season) they returned the following 1600 times:

4:13, 4:20, 4:27, 4:30, 4:36, 4:39, 4:46 with a 5 man avg of 4:25 (yes I added Hunter Hill in there)

This year they are poised to return:

4:14, 4:26, 4:27, 4:33, 4:35, 4:36, 4:36 with a 5 man avg of 4:27

Rocky has always been chronically underrated outside of Letsrun (where people related to Rocky hype it up, and those outside it tear it down with seemingly no middle ground) so here are the facts about Rocky (and honestly Idaho on the whole) being underrated:

Rocky Pre-Season/Post Season rankings:
2021: No rank Dyestat, Tully Watchlist -> 24th Dyestat
2022: No rank Dyestat, no Tully rank -> 10th Dyestat
2023: No rank Dyestat, Tully Watchlist -> 16th Dyestat

I didn't post this to ignore CDA or Boise or any of the other teams. My feeling is that both last year, and going into this year, the general consensus has been that CDA will podium at NXR and make NXN.

Rocky has been consistently better the last 4 year or so than everyone has said they will be (with the exception of the Rocky fanboys and their opinions)

Also, Davis from Rocky Mountain 4:47 and 10:14

Has anyone actually said Rocky won't podium?

I said Rocky is more likely to finish 4th than they are to win, and that was at that moment in time. I think that it will ultimately end up looking like a toss up between T-line and Rocky for 2nd and 3rd, and MV is going to be very good next year and could surprise. CDA would have to have something catastrophic happen as it stands now. Boise has a lot of talent, as well. It's not insane to think that between Rocky, Timberline, MV, and Boise, Rocky ends up in 4th while still having a good day. That's not a negative reflection of Rocky but rather a positive reflection of the other good teams in the state.

It wouldn't surprise me at all to see Rocky get 3rd or 4th at NXR. Crater is going to be very, very good next year. It just also wouldn't surprise me if they were 3rd or 4th at our state meet.

I feel like that's a pretty middle ground view of Rocky. They will be very, very good. But our state is getting very, very good and the region is very, very good. Sometimes very, very good teams can have good days and end up on the wrong side of a team that has a great day.

Regarding those 1600m times... I do think it should be noted that it's probably a push between Landon and Cody from 22 XC vs 24 XC, but 2 is Sainsbury vs. Kurtz, '24 3 has run 4:32 in Idaho for 1600m, while '22 3 was a 9:43 boy in Boise, '24 4 is Goggins vs. Hill (probably a push). You cannot project that '24 #5 is going to do what '22 #5 did- that's Cody Lucas and he reached a new level over the summer. I think that it's realistic to say that '22 was a team of superstars, akin to CDA now, and everything lined up for that team.

Rocky deserves a lot of credit. But so do the other teams that look like they are setting up for special years.

I do think it's amazing that there are 4 teams that will be fighting for 3 trophies and it looks like Idaho could realistically put 4 or 5 teams in the top 10-12. A lot of good guys are graduating, but it looks like the reload won't take all that long.

Corbin Johnston went 1:56/4:18/9:34 at BYU.

He ran 1:57/4:22/9:29.99 last year.

What are the rules on who goes to district? Time qualifier? Top x times? # entries per school?

Which district and classification are you inquiring about?

They are different? I’ve never really paid attention.

How about 4a and 5a in district 3, the Boise areas.

5A District 3 Qualification Standards 2024

Girls Event Boys
13.20 ....................... 100 ................................................. 11.45
27.30 ....................... 200 ................................................. 23.40
63.50 ....................... 400 ................................................. 53.30
2:27.00..................... 800 ................................................. 2:03.50
5:30.00 .................... 1600 ............................................... 4:37.00
12:20.00 .................. 3200 .............................................. 10:12.00
17.60 ........................ 100/110 Hurdles ...................... 17.25
51.50 ........................ 300 Hurdles ................................ 43.80
4'8" ........................... High Jump .................................. 5'10"
8'6" ........................... Pole Vault .................................... 11'0"
15'3" ......................... Long Jump ................................. 19'8"
31'6" ......................... Triple Jump ................................. 39'0"
30' 0" ........................ Shot Put ....................................... 42'0"
92'0' .......................... Discus ........................................... 120' 0"

This link has the 2022 standards for 4A District 3, not sure how much they have changed.

bkathletics.org

Varsity Track

Link:www.bkathletics.org/page/show/8444743-...

As for state, 10 individuals and 5 relays qualify from 5A District 3 and 4 individuals and 2 relays qualify from 4A District 3.

District III was crazy yesterday.

Temps for the 3200s were not super high, but no cloud cover so it felt warmer than it was. The girls 3200 felt like a jog until 4 to go and then it started grinding down. Rilyn Stevens pulled away late to win. Big casualties were Alex Terry and Brooke Thompson. Girls 4x8 was an awesome battle between Rocky, Boise, and Mt View. Owyhee ran a very solid 9:42.76 but got 6th so they aren’t going. That would have 4th last year.

Boys 3200 saw Helder not start. Heemeyer went out front immediately and everyone else was content to run behind Lucas. Heemeyer ran 9:15, Sheesley and Ringert kicked past Lucas. With Helder in there, it may have been more frantic with one less spot available. Goggins and Antonnen were the big names to fall.

Boys 4x8 was also great. Kemper ran a great leg for Boise to win, but I wonder if he’ll be able to replicate that again next week if Helder can’t go. Eagle was the first team out in 8:03.40, another time that would have easily qualified last year.

The biggest news was easily Helder. I believe since he didn’t start the 3200, he can’t run anything this week, meaning that he has to use a hardship to get in to state next week. Sheesley and Kemper have to be nearly perfect if Boise wants to beat Rocky for the team title.

There really is no reason that the 4x800 at state can't be like state cross where half the teams in each district qualify. It would guarantee better representation for eastern and northern Idaho, as well. The CDA girls get left out with the at large at 9:57.02 because Rigby and Highland go 9:50 and 9:53. The boys is a little bit more perplexing because Rigby and Highland ran 8:25 and 8:2, which seems pretty slow for them, so Lake City gets the at large at 8:19.

In reality, the whole of distance running qualifications for at least 5A (6A next year) should be rethought, at least for 1600m and 3200m. Those fields can be expanded to 24 without creating any issues. District III could run them as essentially prelims with evenly seeded heats, and go top 3 plus the next 6 fastest, and District I-II and IV-V-VI can go 6 each. It's a lot more fair than the current system to the athletes from all three district meets.