Official Idaho 2024 Track Thread

Hoping Luke Athay can make something special out of his senior track season.

5A 3200m boys predictions as PR by end of season -

Heemeyer ~8:50

Ringert/Lucas/Athay ~8:55 (maybe closer to 9 flat)

Some combination of those above and May, Stadtlander(?), Cervi Skinner, King, Kemper, Ihmels all under 9:30 and potentially in the low 9:00's

Nathan, you know that Luke Athay is 4A….

I predict CDA puts 6 guys under 9:20

they should all go to arcadia's 3200, we should try to get as many idaho guys under 9 as we can get

Sorry Joe, back in my era IF was 5A.

I don't think 6 are going sub 9:20 from CDA. 1 - for sure, 2 - practically garunteed, 3 quite likely, 4 eh it's possible, 5 doubtful, but 6!?!? I can't think of a single Idaho team that's had 3 under 9:20, let alone 6.

Those were the good old days in 5A huh Nathan! Love you man!

CDA will send em all to Arcadia and go crazy!!! 9:20 at Arcadia is probably 9:35-40 in Idaho

Looks like Rocky Mt from Idaho had 3 guys under 9:20 last spring. With 2 more at 9:30ish. CDA can do it!

Ringert ran 9:12 for the full 2 mile last year, so about 9:08 for 3200m. He ended the year with a 15:48 Firman PR and 9th place at state cross. He ran 15:16 at NXR for 8th and was 3rd at state this year. If he's healthy, I struggle to see how he's not an 8:55 guy, if not faster, especially because he seems to be more of a track guy.

I think Athay should be able to go down into the same range if he stays healthy. I imagine his mileage is muted because he's been banged up so much, so it would be hard for me to see him running much faster.

Cody Lucas has the really fast PR, but also hasn't run within 20 seconds of it again. If he puts it together, I could see him running on top of 9 flat, but I don't know how many cracks he will get at it.

Max Cervi-Skinner has an equivalent 3200m and has beat Lucas every time they have raced, so he deserves inclusion into that 9:00 potentially faster group.

Stadtlander will break 9 if he runs it seriously.

The next tier of guys that are potential sub 9:20 guys to me are Stockett, Kemper, Helder, Goss, Burdick, Z. Cervi-Skinner, May, King, Johnston, Sheesley, Rietze.

The list of guys I think are sub 9:30 guys depending on where and how often they race it are Sam Jensen, Benjamin Jensen, Hyrum Tuft, Pierce Richardson, Everett Metier, Antonnen, Payton Bird, Samuel Spencer, Carr, Spiers, Taggart, Ihmels, Gerratt, Ricks, Barton, Brendle, and Edwards.

Everyone in bold are the guys that were missed. I think that Ihmels had a cross season that puts him more in the mix of the sub 9:30 guys, and there are a ton of guys in there. I don't see him running 18 seconds faster at 3200m than he did last year unless something changes.

I don't think that entire group will run sub 9:30, but I definitely think they will have a chance to. I think the CDA guys have the best chance to hit those marks as they can make any race good just on their own.

The guys that broke 9:20 last year in Idaho:

Heemeyer, Sainsbury, Ringert, Stevens, Fish.

Athay didn’t really start running until the end of July and definitely kept his mileage low. He ran out of time during XC to build back up to full strength, so it will be fun to see where he can get to months from now. Hopefully he can get a good result at an indoor meet that can get him into a fast Arcadia heat. His sophomore XC form was definitely capable of sub 9 and he should get there again.

I don’t know you but here were the results of the state finals 3200m - I’m a Boise parent and watch this closely as big fan of Helder, Kemper, Jack S.

these are the results on athletic.net of state final 3200m from May 2023

athletic.net

Track & Field, Cross Country Results, Statistics

Meet results and team scores.

Link:www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/meet/50...

Kemper and Lucas both beat Cervi Skinner in that race

it was a great race btw - credit to all (3)

so you should correct the misstatement

It was a poorly typed comment. I meant in cross this fall.

Rocky also very publicly ran a 3200m recently for Hoka.

athletic.net

Track & Field, Cross Country Results, Statistics

Meet results and team scores.

Link:www.athletic.net/CrossCountry/meet/223...

I really wish CDA, Boise, Highland, and Mountain View ran one as well. Eagle ran one as well and had Ringert run a solo 9:25, Stevens run 9:47, and Taggart run 9:51. They also had 3 other guys run 10:15 or faster, so I would think they have a shot of 6 guys going sub 10:00 this spring, two of those being sophomores.

I think Boise can maybe get 7 guys. CDA should get more than 7. Not sure about Highland and Mountain View because I think the Eagle guys might be a bit more track oriented.

I do think that it's time to bump Jack Sheesley into the same tier as Stadtlander, Ringert, Athay, M. Cervi-Skinner, and Lucas. Great results all season, and just qualified for Footlocker Nationals, and he has head to head wins over everyone but Stadtlander and Heemeyer now.

Does anyone know which teams/individuals are going to do indoor meets? Last year CDA and Rocky both didn't do any that I can remember, and Boise only had a few individuals compete.

I guess what I'm asking is are we going to have to wait until March for the fast times to come, or are we going to get a nice indoor campaign to watch as well?

A fair number of SE Idaho kids will run Simplot despite mediocre training due to the lack of any sustained coaching in the off season and the generally terrible conditions outside. That’s usually it for that side of the state.

I would assume that anyone that made a big jump that wants to get a mark for a big invitational that doesn't already have it...

Kemper and Helder didn't have marks last year, they have marks now that will get them into good sections. I'm not sure if they will run it or not. Sheesley doesn't have a good mark, so he definitely should.

Heemeyer and Lucas have them as well. Tuft might run one?

North Idaho Distance Project does have Simplot and Nike Indoor Nationals on their calendar.

Not sure if Ringert will. Athay will likely want to run at Simplot since he doesn't have a mark in track since early 2022, and won't have good weather for a long time in eastern Idaho.

If they are going to run indoors, Heemeyer, Stadtlander, Ringert, Lucas, Helder, Kemper, Sheesley, Cervi-Skinner, King, etc. should all try to go to the Podium and race against college guys. It will be better quality fields than anything they'll race in for HS races except for NBIN or NIN, and they won't have to do any of the work in the races.

Very late, but Goss and Ringert went 4:22-4:24 against each other in their November mile, and Luke Stockett ran a solo 4:23 in his November mile. If these guys can all go in the low 4:20s less than a week after their state meet, I think we could potentially see some crazy 1600m times this year as well. I can see Staedlander Kemper and Heemeyer going sub-4:10, and guys like Blaser, Helder, Lucas, and the guys I mentioned above all going sub-4:15, along with plenty of others I'm probably forgetting about.

Bryson Blaser ran 4:15 last year already.

Helder is a 1:53/15:21 guy. I'm sure he can run sub 4:10 on the right day. Ringert ran 4:18.23 last year at districts, narrowly losing to Kemper and Blaser while beating Oclan Ryan and Heemeyer. According to the thread last year, he was pretty sick at the state meet. He probably could have run in that range if he wasn't.

I think that in the right meet, those three have the credentials to also run in the 4:10/sub 4:10 range. Of course, it all depends on what heat they get into, but a sea-level 1600 in California or Oregon that gets won in 4:08 could drag them to a great time.

I think Sheesley, Lucas, Goss, and Stockett will all break 4:15. I just don't know if they get into the right heat to go much faster.

I'm going to make a bold prediction.

CDA, Boise, Rocky, Centennial, Mountain View, and Eagle all have at least 6 guys break 10 minutes this spring.

There will be at least 24 returners across these 6 teams heading into next cross season that have gone sub 10. At least 10 of those returning 24 will be sophomores or younger this year. Last year there were 22 sub 10 guys (two more ran 10:00) in all of 5A.

5A (I guess 6A moving forward) will turn into an insane arms race for the foreseeable future and you will have a hard time getting a trophy in cross country if you don't return 5 guys that have run under 10:10 with at least two guys that have run sub 9:45.