Gjert declines
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Gjert declines
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How can you deny that when 3 of your sons are saying the same..
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The Ingebrigtsen Brothers on Gjert: "Used Physical Violence and Threats as Part of Our Upbringing"
For the first time, the Ingebrigtsen brothers are opening up about why they chose to break ties with their father. They describe a childhood marked by discomfort, fear, and violence.
The Ingebrigtsen brothers are now providing insight into the background of their family conflict with their father, Gjert. In a statement to VG (a Norwegian newspaper), they discuss a childhood marked by discomfort, fear, and violence.
Gjert Ingebrigtsen, through his attorney John Christian Elden, has responded to VG's report, calling the statements baseless and denying any use of violence against his children.
Henrik, Filip, and Jakob have all achieved world-class status in running. Their father, Gjert, had been training them until the winter of 2022
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It's over.
They confirm that they've grown up under violence and threats from their father, but hoped that it was all past them, which they now see as naive. Two years ago the violence came back (by this time all three brothers lived alone, making their sister a more likely victim) and they decided to cut all ties to their father. Now, they say, they don't want to be close to a father who has instilled fear in them for so long.
If true, incredibly tragic, and not the ''good ending'' we were hoping for.
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But what is "violence" in this context? It is not uncommon for parents and children to have different definitions of violence.
Around most parts of the world, Gjert's generation was often disciplined with belts or sticks growing up.
That’s my question too. If they are just referring to some occasional spankings, that is a very weak complaint.
I would accept beatings to reach Jacob’s level.
Is it nothing new that the parents who perpetrate violence against their children do not acknowledge it, often because they themselves do not think that what they have done qualifies as violence (it is only discipline!)
There is discipline, such as spanking (a few swats on your bum meant to embarrass you / shake you out of your misconduct), and parents taking out their anger by hitting their kids, because they can't control their emotions / do not care about the impact it will have on their kids. I can see an argument for the former, but if a parent is lashing out cause they are simply mad, that is not acceptable, and can definitely cause children to have psychological issues for the rest of their life. Maybe it is common place in some parts of the world, but that is different than saying it is a good and positive thing.
Watch Letsrun defend childbeatings... "it was normal back in the day, tough love, it made them who they are today, it must have worked...." etc. Savages.
I hope now you can realize they drew the line when violence came to Ingrid. You can beat us, but not our sister. I have nothing but respect for the Brothers.
I would like to hear from some of the boys who are not part of this training situation. it is difficult to take the word of the three who otherwise had a lot of egg on their face for the way they have acted towards Narve.
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if that is the perception, fine. speak in more direct terms instead of generalities. He should say I did this and this as it was when i was growing up. I didn't think anything of it, but in hindsight I was wrong.
Kristoffer will chime in. It is terrible that it game to this, Gjert should have stepped back, but now he has to drag Ingrid into this. Open secret now.
The siblings are very close. Their oldest brother trains with them regularly, and they were all in Jakob's wedding. They're very likely on the same page.
Every kid should have a healthy fear of their father. That’s what keeps them in line. And that’s why moms often will say, “Just wait until your father gets home!” to get their kids to behave.
kids should have an understanding of consequences for their actions. violence is the easy way to do that. with more skill and patience, it's most definitely not necessary.
And it goes beyond parenting. It is the same with teaching, coaching, any kind of leading. clear and predictable consequences.
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