One thing that came out of a WADA Study on Kenyan positives is that the doctors are not always aware of the athlete's obligations and restrictions when prescribing typical drugs for genuine medical issues.
Going by the information you provide, I think most people agree now that this was an accidental ingestion of a product on the WADA list.
Not at all. See for example Lawson. That she did receive a ban, despite her cooperation, indicates that she did not accidentally take the drug (which is actually forbidden at all times, unlike some minor drugs).
That she received such a small ban, indicates that she cooperated fully and could share the blame with others.
Ok thank you for the information you provide, and this is all very strange, because my Kenyan friends are convinced that she is "guiltless" but perhaps they are biased which is a normal process for most people.
Best case scenario for her: somebody gave her the drug for whatever reason, and she took it, trusting that person, without checking whether it's an allowed drug. That would be careless, but not without blame.
Friends and fans might call that (incorrectly) "guiltless".
I could understand a ban of 6 months to 1 year, but banning runners for years it's not going to improve the athletics.
You are like a parody of what one would expect from a Moroccan athletics fan. Are you really typical of Moroccan track fans? Do you not care that you are living proof of the stereotype of a North African who doesn't understand the concept of 'playing by the rules'?
Did you even read the article? She was only banned for 10 months.
You mean WADA is killing the sport in Morocco (please God)?
I could understand a ban of 6 months to 1 year, but banning runners for years it's not going to improve the athletics.
You are like a parody of what one would expect from a Moroccan athletics fan. Are you really typical of Moroccan track fans? Do you not care that you are living proof of the stereotype of a North African who doesn't understand the concept of 'playing by the rules'?
Did you even read the article? She was only banned for 10 months.
You mean WADA is killing the sport in Morocco (please God)?
Rengeruk:
Yes, it was a 10 months ban but 5 months of those were backdated so in effect she will only serve 5 months because in February 2023 she will be scot-free to compete again. This will be a warning and presumably she will be very careful in the future about all the products she ingests whether voluntary or instigated by one of her assistants if that was the case. So far all of the people in Kenya that I communicate with support her. All of them are convinced that she is guiltless. This does not exonerate her from blame entirely, but it does pose the question about how she was involved in this affair in the first place and whether she voluntarily took something prohibited? Reading between the lines from the messages I received from my Kenyan friends it seems that perhaps the Doctor who administered the pharmaceutical product was to blame even though doctors are habitually not cognisant of the WADA list which in theory would absolve him of the infraction, at least on a moral basis but not on facts which took place (i.e. ingestion of the product in question, ironically a hormone suppressant).
I just got a message on Facebook messenger a few minutes ago from a Kenyan runner. Here is the content of the message in quotes.
"A brief review on letrazole in Kasait's case. This medication is used to treat/induce ovulation for ladies who want to conceive .Yes it is on the WADA list but the problem is that, it's written Letrazole but it's medical name is Clomid/clomiphene. These are things you will never hear from ADAK Seminars!! The type of knowledge at those meetings is soooo basic and never shades light on THEM in real details. Just guessing any woman athlete who is trying to conceive! so would possibly had an issue with ovulation and she opts for hormone therapy and is given Letrazole (Clomid/clomiphene) to conceive . In such cases as an example, the athlete has no idea on the consequences. We know ignorance has no defence but all we are saying is to have a body representing athletes in such cases." (End quote)
Ghost note: Kasait is her maiden name. Rengeruk her present name.
I just got a message on Facebook messenger a few minutes ago from a Kenyan runner. Here is the content of the message in quotes.
"A brief review on letrazole in Kasait's case. This medication is used to treat/induce ovulation for ladies who want to conceive .Yes it is on the WADA list but the problem is that, it's written Letrazole but it's medical name is Clomid/clomiphene. These are things you will never hear from ADAK Seminars!! The type of knowledge at those meetings is soooo basic and never shades light on THEM in real details. Just guessing any woman athlete who is trying to conceive! so would possibly had an issue with ovulation and she opts for hormone therapy and is given Letrazole (Clomid/clomiphene) to conceive . In such cases as an example, the athlete has no idea on the consequences. We know ignorance has no defence but all we are saying is to have a body representing athletes in such cases." (End quote)
Ghost note: Kasait is her maiden name. Rengeruk her present name.
Rengeruk:
This is probably the strongest evidence so far which explains the very light sentence. I had my doubts about her before this, but now that I have this knowledge thanks to some Kenyan contacts, I'm convinced that she is 99% guiltless from a moral/ethical point of view, meaning that she did not want to gain an unfair advantage over her opposition in athletics, but she took this product simply on doctor's orders with regard to her her pregnancy issues.
Hopefully people will understand this and have some sympathy.
Saidi-Sief received a two-year suspension from the International Association of Athletics Federations after failing a urine test at the 2001 World Championships in Athletics in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada by testing positive for nandrolone, a banned performance-enhancing steroid. A second expert examination at a laboratory in Cologne showed that a supplement he had been taking (Peruvat) contained nandrolone, which was not in the labelled ingredients. This did not affect his doping ban, as the rules apply strict athlete liability, but he vowed to seek compensation from the manufacturer.
Best case scenario for her: somebody gave her the drug for whatever reason, and she took it, trusting that person, without checking whether it's an allowed drug. That would be careless, but not without blame.
Friends and fans might call that (incorrectly) "guiltless".
It would be good if WADA and the governing bodies who mete out of the bans/sanctions would give an explanation giving more details about the verdicts, because in a case like this (Rengeruk case)where it is not a flagrant attempt to cheat, unless the details are revealed as they have been here, the athletes run the risk of being stigmatized and viewed negatively in their ongoing career. This is unfair and unjustified. There should be a certain transparence in the sanctions which are given, which are not happening at this time. This opaqueness leads to confusion and misinformation, and not only hurts the athlete in question (e.g. Rengeruk) but also creates a false impression about the country where the alleged perpetrator comes from.
Very good and that is what I suspected from her physical appearance.
On another subject are you satisfied with the official declaration that Dr. William Ruto is now the official leader of Kenya over his rival (78 year old) Odinga? Will the latter team (Odinga) still push the judicial process up to the appellate court to contest the decision?
Are the other ethnic groups in Kenya satisfied with his official proclamation? I’m referring to the majority Kikuyu, Luhya, Luo, and other groups with lesser numbers like the Kisii, and Masai?
The judicial process is exhausted and William Ruto has been declared president. Although the final tally was virtually half and half, most think the better candidate won and Kenya got the president it needs. No one's really disputing the result anymore. And the consensus seems to be the arguments put forward in Raila Odinga's petition were quite flimsy. He's run and lost 5 times so hopefully this ends his obsession with the becoming president.
I'm sorry but this is a very potent drug that has been on the banned doping list for years. So if a doctor is dosing her without her knowledge that points to an organized doping regime by coaches, handlers and agents, which is often what we here. Although I am also not buying the babe in the woods routine. No one is that dumb or naive.
Aziz Daouda killed you the other day when he said:
"Said Aouita était un athlète qui se soignait à l'aspirine".
Aouita says that dopers should go to prison.
Why don't you follow his outlook? Or is it because you assume he is lying?
You know Aziz Daouda is someone we call in Morocco "Hartani" (same thing for Aouita), they are people who became "métis" with generations from sub-Saharian African and white North Africans.
He is a cool guy with a special "way of speech"...
Gnawa came to Morocco from the glorious ancestral Saadi dynasty.
I'm sorry but this is a very potent drug that has been on the banned doping list for years. So if a doctor is dosing her without her knowledge that points to an organized doping regime by coaches, handlers and agents, which is often what we here. Although I am also not buying the babe in the woods routine. No one is that dumb or naive.
I see your point and I accept that you believe that, but I believe differently based on my contacts with Kenyan runners that I know well, having stayed with them, who have almost convinced me that the athlete in question, Rengeruk, did not voluntarily ingest that banned product. I think she also convinced AKA and WADA that she did not have nefarious intentions.
For the past year or so, AKA has been coming down very hard on its own athletes so this is an indication that the clemency took place because they (AKA) believed that she did not have deliberate intent to cheat.
If I get more news from Kenya on this subject I will post. Thank you for your patience.
Very good and that is what I suspected from her physical appearance.
On another subject are you satisfied with the official declaration that Dr. William Ruto is now the official leader of Kenya over his rival (78 year old) Odinga? Will the latter team (Odinga) still push the judicial process up to the appellate court to contest the decision?
Are the other ethnic groups in Kenya satisfied with his official proclamation? I’m referring to the majority Kikuyu, Luhya, Luo, and other groups with lesser numbers like the Kisii, and Masai?
The judicial process is exhausted and William Ruto has been declared president. Although the final tally was virtually half and half, most think the better candidate won and Kenya got the president it needs. No one's really disputing the result anymore. And the consensus seems to be the arguments put forward in Raila Odinga's petition were quite flimsy. He's run and lost 5 times so hopefully this ends his obsession with the becoming president.
Thank you for the update and bearing in mind that Ruto’s rival Odinga is around 78 years old, he’s (Odinga) really pushing the envelope in terms of health unless he is an outlier at that age which is rare. Ruto being a Kalenjin, like the majority of great Kenyan runners, will perhaps improve the infrastructure in both Eldoret and Iten. Are Kenyans also suffering from the energy crisis so prevalent in Europe?
Here in France for example, costs for heating and energy have skyrocketed and will plunge a lot of people into poverty or quasi poverty. Salaries in Europe in general have not kept up with inflation. Housing prices are crazy. I was speaking with a Dutch man yesterday and he was telling me that 1 million new homes need to be built in the Netherlands, which is suffering a severe housing crisis.
Migrants thinking about moving to Europe should perhaps consider Sweden although in the news lately about that country (Sweden), I heard that the far right is gaining a lot of strength in the polls which is not good for migrants in general.
I think she also convinced AKA and WADA that she did not have nefarious intentions.
For the past year or so, AKA has been coming down very hard on its own athletes so this is an indication that the clemency took place because they (AKA) believed that she did not have deliberate intent to cheat.
If I get more news from Kenya on this subject I will post. Thank you for your patience.
Neither WADA nor ADAK were involved. This was an AIU ooc test, and the athlete was charged with 2.1 and 2.2 (Presence and use of a prohibited substance).
AIU specifically wrote that the athlete got (only) 10 months because of 10.6.1(a).
Here is 10.6.1(a):
Where the anti-doping rule violation involves a Specified Substance (other than a Substance of Abuse) or Specified Method, and the Athlete or other Person can establish that they bear No Significant Fault or Negligence for the anti-doping rule violation(s) alleged against them, then the period of Ineligibility will be, at a minimum, a reprimand and no period of Ineligibility, and at a maximum, two (2) years of Ineligibility, depending on the Athlete’s or other Person’s degree of Fault.
Clearly she was judged to have No Significant Fault, but some degree of Fault > 0, as postulated earlier today, because her punishment is close to the middle of the 0 - 24 months of 10.6.1(a).