The amount of women willing and able to have three kids by age 28 is tiny. Probably less than half of women have one child at that age.
To have three kids by 28 you'd need to meet someone at 20, and the pair of you would need to have enough money and a house to look after a family, despite neither of you going to college or having a career long enough to earn big bucks.
What you're expecting is totally unrealistic (And that's separate from your attitude of wanting nothing more than a baby factory)
No, not 20, ideally you're looking for barely legal 18. In those two years from 18 to 20, odds a young woman may have gone from virgin to jaded/broken from miles of ****. No, you don't need money, you don't need a house, what you need is to put babies in her. As far as unrealistic, I managed it, and it should be everyman's "plan A," these guys talking about "You'll hit your stride in your 30s/40s or beyond, that's "plan C or D" at best.
I was very surprised to start experiencing this a few years ago (and if you are in great physical shape it incites even more aggressive advances.) I was even stalked for several months by a women less than half my age. The only problem is the younger women are pretty much virtually all worthless in that they are looking only for a sugar daddy to whisk them off to a castle in the hills where they can lounge about, go shopping and order food. Even the older ones are looking for this type of arrangement. Thanks, but no thanks. The more successful women are looking for men who are millionaires and preferably billionaires, which is still a sort of sugar daddy/sugar baby type of arrangement only on a higher level. This is the scene in the area I live, which is a highly educated, wealthy and liberal area. I call the place "sugar daddy city" and the region was even proclaimed the #1 area for sugar daddy activity (as per stats from the Ashley Madison and Seeking Arrangement websites.) It is quite amusing that the attractiveness of women in this area is quite low compared to other regions (in the US) - which makes the women in this area just as overvalued as the real estate. I'm sure you can figure out what area I'm talking about - who can guess? (Hint - young girls from Nordic countries use to flock here to work as live-in nannies in the wealthiest neighborhoods.)
Masculinity is attractive to women, just as femininity is attractive to men. Being masculine doesn't have to be all about being 6' or taller with a ripped body. Sure, Chad may look like that by default, but being masculine is as much about an attitude and an ability as it is about looks.
I am 50 and would consider myself average looking, 6' tall. I have a beard (graying) and most of my hair. I'm not in tremendous physical shape but also not overweight. Better than Dad bod, but not a guy who lifts weights religiously either.
I am a very "take charge" kind of guy who will fix whatever needs to be fixed or control whatever situation needs controlling. Not in a bad way, but I get things done. This seems to be a very attractive trait and I consider it part of being a man.
I find myself in situations every week where it would be painfully easy to pick up women half my age. Yesterday I was installing network equipment on jobsite and there was a cute woman, probably 25, working on a video camera system. She was having trouble with some connectivity issues, I said "let me fix that for you" and I did. In front of her, I also directed several other people on the site in ways that go her problem fixed almost immediately. I took charge, got results. After that, it took about 5 minutes of casual banter before she was leaning in, twirling her hair, and actively hitting on me. As I left she said she hoped I'd be back on site Monday, she wanted to buy me a coffee (I don't drink coffee) on her way in.
Not terribly long ago I was driving home from work and I saw two women stopped on the side of the road with a flat tire. Pulled over and asked them if they needed help. Turns out they had a "man" with them, but he was in the back seat watching a youtube video trying to figure out what to do. I popped the trunk, got the tire changed, done in ten minutes. Separately, both gave me their phone numbers -- and they were hot, probably 25 years old.
This happens time and time again. Be a man around women. It's attractive to them.
In reference to the cute woman you helped with her video camera system - did you follow-up with her on that Monday?
How about the two hot chicks that you changed the flat tire for - did you call or text either one of them & arrange a date?
Unfortunately we can't say the same about your parents.
They obviously had more looks, charm and talent than most of the incels here.
I don't why you're so critical of the incel problem. There's a very concerning growing number of sexless young men with many of them already into their 30s! And not all of them are two-bit bums living in their parent's basement playing video games all day:
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The amount of women willing and able to have three kids by age 28 is tiny. Probably less than half of women have one child at that age.
To have three kids by 28 you'd need to meet someone at 20, and the pair of you would need to have enough money and a house to look after a family, despite neither of you going to college or having a career long enough to earn big bucks.
What you're expecting is totally unrealistic (And that's separate from your attitude of wanting nothing more than a baby factory)
No, not 20, ideally you're looking for barely legal 18. In those two years from 18 to 20, odds a young woman may have gone from virgin to jaded/broken from miles of ****. No, you don't need money, you don't need a house, what you need is to put babies in her. As far as unrealistic, I managed it, and it should be everyman's "plan A," these guys talking about "You'll hit your stride in your 30s/40s or beyond, that's "plan C or D" at best.
"Just Be First" theory, the instinctual strategy men have employed throughout history:
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either the government pays for plastic surgery or they'll die virgins.
I don't even want to hear about therapy or employment: the reason they're virgins is they aren't good looking enough, so women don't want to sleep with them.
If they were good looking they would be having sex.
Unfortunately it won't happen.
The government will never help ugly men.
They might start a war so they can send ugly men to die.
It's going to be funny when ugly men realize only uggos were sent to war.
little question: what is going to happen when 70% of men realize they are a genetic dead end and will never have sex, a wife or children?
The goverment tried to tell men lies in the past 20 years (PUA Forums, red pill, MGTOW) but guess what? Men got older and realised it was all lie. All those anti-women discourse was COPE.
"Men get more attractive as they get older"
"Women lose value as they age"
"Women just care about money"
"Just be a nice person and you'll find a nice girl"
"Things will turn out fine soon"
"Focus on your career now, think about women later"
"40s are the new 20s"
"Women like dad bods"
"Women like when you show your sensitive side"
and so on and so forth.
I think I have the answer, but let's wait and see.
Of course appearance matters. But that’s clearly not your only problem. Your philosophy/outlook on life is also holding you back. Anyone who can off-the-cuff reference dozens of dumb “black pill” YouTube videos are demonstrating that they would have personality issues in connecting with women. It’s just more convenient to chalk it all up to physical attributes.
At my university there are more guys then girls and more guys got in then girls did, so your argument is pointless. The thing is the main and most obvious reason you are single is because of your personality, maybe work on that a little more then try again and reach out to girls. You have such Incel traits and tendencies that make girls want to run away from you. Change that and act like you don't care and you will eventually get the girl. Most guys don't even finish their degree and they drop out and quit before they finish compared to women, so it makes sense as to why more girls are earning college degrees and advancing further in life while guys are staying behind and wasting their time and energy.
I don't why you're so critical of the incel problem. There's a very concerning growing number of sexless young men with many of them already into their 30s! And not all of them are two-bit bums living in their parent's basement playing video games all day:
It's interesting to me how seriously incel types take dating apps/online dating. I use Bumble, but really just consider it to be low-key fun. I chat with a few girls at a time. Most of the conversations fizzle out. Maybe once every other month or so I end up actually asking one of my matches out and grabbing drinks/coffee with her. Probably won't meet the love of my life on Bumble. Probably won't even end up in a longterm relationship from online dating. But it's a fun, low pressure way to meet people.
I swipe right on women I find to be very attractive. If any like me back and turn out to be reasonably normal human beings, great! If not, nothing lost. I look through the women who have liked me, and match with anyone I'm interested in. If all my likes this week are from girls I'm not into, again, nothing lost.
But Jebus, these incel types act like online dating is something to be taken SO seriously. Like signing up for Tinder/Bumble and NOT getting dates immediately is some kind of damn personal tragedy. First of all, if you're putting that much pressure on a social situation, you are almost certainly going to come across as desperate, creepy, weird, or all of the above. And anyway who wants to date the kind of guy who takes fun, lighthearted activities and turns them into miserable experiences. What will a weekend vacation be like with a guy who can't even swipe profiles on a silly app without becoming rageful/suicidal/self-loathing?
Of course appearance matters. But that’s clearly not your only problem. Your philosophy/outlook on life is also holding you back. Anyone who can off-the-cuff reference dozens of dumb “black pill” YouTube videos are demonstrating that they would have personality issues in connecting with women. It’s just more convenient to chalk it all up to physical attributes.
Hey dude...do you even comprehend anything I say? Let's try this again:
I'm an ultra-short, average-looking (at best) manlet (slang for a muscular, short guy trying to compensate by gym maxing). Newsflash: This does NOT attract Stacey's (slang for hot women). I attract overweight/obese unattractive women because guys like me are their backup plan & 2nd choice since they can't get any of the "Chads" - and they're not interested in overweight/obese guys that are similar to them. And of course, most of the Stacey's out there want the "Chads" as their first choice anyway. (geez...imagine that).
And if you think those black pill YouTube channels are "dumb - go set up a debate with one of them and see how far you get. Lol. They debate blue pillars like you all the time. The author of "48 laws of dating" will educate you very quickly (his YouTube channel is Smash TV) 😉
No, not 20, ideally you're looking for barely legal 18. In those two years from 18 to 20, odds a young woman may have gone from virgin to jaded/broken from miles of ****. No, you don't need money, you don't need a house, what you need is to put babies in her. As far as unrealistic, I managed it, and it should be everyman's "plan A," these guys talking about "You'll hit your stride in your 30s/40s or beyond, that's "plan C or D" at best.
"Just Be First" theory, the instinctual strategy men have employed throughout history:
Of course appearance matters. But that’s clearly not your only problem. Your philosophy/outlook on life is also holding you back. Anyone who can off-the-cuff reference dozens of dumb “black pill” YouTube videos are demonstrating that they would have personality issues in connecting with women. It’s just more convenient to chalk it all up to physical attributes.
Hey dude...do you even comprehend anything I say? Let's try this again:
I'm an ultra-short, average-looking (at best) manlet (slang for a muscular, short guy trying to compensate by gym maxing).
A self deprecating sense of humor can be valuable in attracting women, but the fact that you call yourself a "manlet" is really telling here. You need to work on your self esteem. No doubt you are broadcasting your anxiety and self-loathing in a way that every woman you come into contact with immediately wants nothing to do with you. Work on that first. Then work on how to flirt and talk to women and make them laugh and see you for more than your height.
Letsrun posters generally do not make good partners because they do not respect women and gender expression, libertarian Trumpers, believe conspiracies, think they know more than public health authorities, and have very little $. So It is just best for society that they play with themselves
Of course appearance matters. But that’s clearly not your only problem. Your philosophy/outlook on life is also holding you back. Anyone who can off-the-cuff reference dozens of dumb “black pill” YouTube videos are demonstrating that they would have personality issues in connecting with women. It’s just more convenient to chalk it all up to physical attributes.
Hey dude...do you even comprehend anything I say? Let's try this again:
I'm an ultra-short, average-looking (at best) manlet (slang for a muscular, short guy trying to compensate by gym maxing). Newsflash: This does NOT attract Stacey's (slang for hot women). I attract overweight/obese unattractive women because guys like me are their backup plan & 2nd choice since they can't get any of the "Chads"
Judging from your posts, it’s entirely likely that your problem isn’t that you are short or ugly. It is that you seem to enjoy this defeatist attitude. That because you aren’t attracting ‘hot’ women, it must be something you cannot fix.
Don’t know what to tell you. Seems like you find it easier to whine than to listen to the advice most of us have given you. 🤷♀️
either the government pays for plastic surgery or they'll die virgins.
I don't even want to hear about therapy or employment: the reason they're virgins is they aren't good looking enough, so women don't want to sleep with them.
If they were good looking they would be having sex.
Unfortunately it won't happen.
The government will never help ugly men.
They might start a war so they can send ugly men to die.
It's going to be funny when ugly men realize only uggos were sent to war.
little question: what is going to happen when 70% of men realize they are a genetic dead end and will never have sex, a wife or children?
The goverment tried to tell men lies in the past 20 years (PUA Forums, red pill, MGTOW) but guess what? Men got older and realised it was all lie. All those anti-women discourse was COPE.
"Men get more attractive as they get older"
"Women lose value as they age"
"Women just care about money"
"Just be a nice person and you'll find a nice girl"
"Things will turn out fine soon"
"Focus on your career now, think about women later"
"40s are the new 20s"
"Women like dad bods"
"Women like when you show your sensitive side"
and so on and so forth.
I think I have the answer, but let's wait and see.
Hey ADuck2022! Good to see you here! You’re branching out into relationship counceling?
You stayed with the first girl you met when you were a teenager. Good for you but let's not pretend you employed any strategy to this 😂
No, I was in my twenties, she was younger, the way it is supposed to work. The idea is the lock down a virgin, or least experienced, best looking, youngest legal girl you can. A man gains experience, a woman gains mileage/baggage/damage. Otherwise, you're competing for the used leftovers.
The idea is the lock down a virgin, or least experienced, best looking, youngest legal girl you can. A man gains experience, a woman gains mileage/baggage/damage. Otherwise, you're competing for the used leftovers.
Lolllll this is hilarious ! Most grown ass men I know are the damaged ones (incl myself in this) And that whole ‘virgin ideal’ is some funny ass Victorian stuff right here.