I’ll bite—how about Seattle University in both track and cross country.
Looks to me like their administration has both sports as Title IX fillers. Hell, their program isn’t even a decent D2 program, as Seattle Pacific, Western Washington & Central Washington would run circles around them. I honestly thought that getting rid of the Steidls would help turn the ship around, but it’s not happening.
If the administration won’t find a way to improve the track & XC program, maybe it should just shut it down.
How did you fall so hard into your feelings on this one... They never said anything bad about the coach, so it's ridiculous for you to have this kind of reaction. Their joke was funny and reflects the attitude of the boards pretty well. I'm still in disbelief that this could be your real response to the small quip they had.
Remember when Manhattan College XC alum were all excited when Matt Centro Sr was hired as the coach? They thought they would be a contender? The team definitely got worse with him in charge.
I find this one baffling. Vanderbilt lives off that SEC money, it's already a very wealthy school with a huge endowment worth hundreds of millions of dollars, yet they chose to not compete in a sport that requires 7 people.
Nashville is a great city, Vandy is a great school. If funded, I think they could really do something there.
I find this one baffling. Vanderbilt lives off that SEC money, it's already a very wealthy school with a huge endowment worth hundreds of millions of dollars, yet they chose to not compete in a sport that requires 7 people.
Nashville is a great city, Vandy is a great school. If funded, I think they could really do something there.
Try nearly $5 billion for the annual endowment. Vanderbilt however is an institution that most are not attending for its athletic reputation. The school is an academic powerhouse that produces some of the wealthiest people in the world. People go there because they want to be rich.
I find this one baffling. Vanderbilt lives off that SEC money, it's already a very wealthy school with a huge endowment worth hundreds of millions of dollars, yet they chose to not compete in a sport that requires 7 people.
Nashville is a great city, Vandy is a great school. If funded, I think they could really do something there.
Agreed. They have had some really solid women's teams. Vanderbilt would be a super attractive school for a lot of guys. They have fantstic track facilities. I don't get it.
Rutgers XC is atrocious. What happens when HC hires his buddies.
Who is HC? rutgers use to be very good when Gags was the coach. Yes its true they have been very bad since, but Jelley an Traynor are committed to bringing the team back to a respectable level.
biggest decline in performance in an XC program has to go to Iona. They went from being podium contenders for years and the dominant team in the northeast to finishing towards the bottom of the field at every invitational this year.
Had Iona run their full team yet?
No. They've run split squad pretty much every meet. Only ran 5 runners at Nuttycombe. Iona is still going to be a very good team for a while, but the Northeast region is rapidly catching up to them, with a lot of Ivies getting pretty good as well as Stony Brook, Providence, and Syracuse, they no longer are gonna have easy ways into the NCAA meet.
Vanderbilt has barely had 6 guys running every race this season. They just finished 33rd at Texas A&M to some pretty bad teams with their 5th guy running over 28 minutes. Also looked back and saw they've had over 4 upperclassmen leave the team over the past 2 years. Definitely has to be something going on there. Sad.
Vanderbilt has barely had 6 guys running every race this season. They just finished 33rd at Texas A&M to some pretty bad teams with their 5th guy running over 28 minutes. Also looked back and saw they've had over 4 upperclassmen leave the team over the past 2 years. Definitely has to be something going on there. Sad.
It's not what is going on there, it's what is not.
They should be embarrassed at the effort they make when it comes to XC and track, but then they (Vandy) seem to be perfectly fine making a token effort at all sports, but still collecting a huge fat SEC check.
Vanderbilt has barely had 6 guys running every race this season. They just finished 33rd at Texas A&M to some pretty bad teams with their 5th guy running over 28 minutes. Also looked back and saw they've had over 4 upperclassmen leave the team over the past 2 years. Definitely has to be something going on there. Sad.
It's not what is going on there, it's what is not.
They should be embarrassed at the effort they make when it comes to XC and track, but then they (Vandy) seem to be perfectly fine making a token effort at all sports, but still collecting a huge fat SEC check.
They just put all their effort into baseball, apparently. (And sometimes basketball, they're generally near the middle of the SEC in that.)
I posted a thread very similar to this a while ago. If I recall, Vanderbilt, Louisville, Syracuse, and Boston College were all incredibly bad. I could be misremembering.
I don’t think you understand.
At XC regionals last year, there were 205 finishers. Winning time was 29:50.
Evansville runners finished:
179 (34:11)
192 (35:14)
200 (36:54)
203 (37:32)
204 (39:31)
205 (39:57)
For all of you that don't know, the last 2 or 3 UE runners got lapped at this race- their home course was actually the location of the meet and it is composed of 2 laps of both 2k and 3k loops. Can't imagine how embarrassing that would be.
There are tons of worse conferences than the MAAC. Firstly like we just mentioned, there is still Iona who is still very good and was in the National Rankings this year at one point. Other than that there's multiple other good-decent teams, and the bottom 4-5 are pretty bad. But there are worse D1 conferences for sure.
At XC regionals last year, there were 205 finishers. Winning time was 29:50.
Evansville runners finished:
179 (34:11)
192 (35:14)
200 (36:54)
203 (37:32)
204 (39:31)
205 (39:57)
For all of you that don't know, the last 2 or 3 UE runners got lapped at this race- their home course was actually the location of the meet and it is composed of 2 laps of both 2k and 3k loops. Can't imagine how embarrassing that would be.