Kicking ability doesn't tell you whether he's ready to run a fast time. Guys like this work on finishing ability only shortly before champs, as Nick Willis explained in 2016. He was probably in heavy training and won't come out of that for another week. In any case, look at the quality of the British field by the fact that in the recent past, we've seen Kerr (3:29.05ish), Wightman (3:29.47), and Grice (3:30) in 3:29-30 shape. British trials now require that kind of shape to qualify.
Josh Kerr Race Tonight (7/6)
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When he ran 56/50, he was clearly in better than 1:45 800m shape. He hasn't been injured, so I am sure that his 3:48 indoors indicates he'll be ready.
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Podcast listener wrote:
He's raced 6 times outdoor this year, and has Worlds, Commonwealth Games, and European Championships (if he still plans to race there) over the next 6 weeks. That's 9 races in itself, the same as he ran in the whole of 2021.
He's just on a different schedule to the US athletes who only have the World Champs to aim for.
He and a lot of the other British athletes are very pumped about the Commonwealth games. Laura Muir brings them up a lot and I have heard or read Kerr talking about the importance of the games to him on several occasions. I think Kerr is trying to thread a needle in training right now in order to try and be ready to perform at his highest level in the Worlds and after in Commonwealth and European. I'm going to give the Olympic medalist the benefit of the doubt.
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brighteyes wrote:
Podcast listener wrote:
He's raced 6 times outdoor this year, and has Worlds, Commonwealth Games, and European Championships (if he still plans to race there) over the next 6 weeks. That's 9 races in itself, the same as he ran in the whole of 2021.
He's just on a different schedule to the US athletes who only have the World Champs to aim for.
He and a lot of the other British athletes are very pumped about the Commonwealth games. Laura Muir brings them up a lot and I have heard or read Kerr talking about the importance of the games to him on several occasions. I think Kerr is trying to thread a needle in training right now in order to try and be ready to perform at his highest level in the Worlds and after in Commonwealth and European. I'm going to give the Olympic medalist the benefit of the doubt.
I forgot to say it, but I am totally agreeing with Podcast listener.
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Except for Gourley is in 3:34 shape and qualified? Idk man, I think Kerr can turn it around too but you’re reminding me of the people who were acting like Hobbs Kessler’s obvious struggles were the figments of Letsrun posters’ imaginations. Kerr has run poorly this season. That isn’t by design. He will have to turn it around fast.
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When the race result comes out, you'll realize that Johnny Gregorek, Sam Prakel, Brandon Kidder, Isiah Harris are equally as good (if not better) of a competition as Sam Tanner. Plus, it takes 30 minutes to drive to Shoreline HS instead of 2 hours and 30 minutes to drive to PDX.
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Neumann wrote:
When the race result comes out, you'll realize that Johnny Gregorek, Sam Prakel, Brandon Kidder, Isiah Harris are equally as good (if not better) of a competition as Sam Tanner. Plus, it takes 30 minutes to drive to Shoreline HS instead of 2 hours and 30 minutes to drive to PDX.
Isaiah Harris paced the race, so he wasn't competition. Sam Tanner is better than all those guys, if they were even all in the race. He ran 3:34.37 at Pre to beat Gourley with a nice kick. He is in fine form. Nobody is arguing that Kerr doing a an all-comers meet isn't more convenient for him. I'm arguing it'd be much more exciting/potentially valuable for him to test himself in a 1500 race vs. real competition with fans as opposed to in a random open meet vs. teammates/B-teamers.
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Results, for those interested:
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biefk wrote:
Results, for those interested:
Looking at those results, what’s going on with Henry Wynne? Overall it’s not been a good year for the Beasts and Josh is going to have to do a lot to change that.
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Neumann wrote:
When the race result comes out, you'll realize that Johnny Gregorek, Sam Prakel, Brandon Kidder, Isiah Harris are equally as good (if not better) of a competition as Sam Tanner. Plus, it takes 30 minutes to drive to Shoreline HS instead of 2 hours and 30 minutes to drive to PDX.
Shoreline HS doesn't exist, but yeah the stadium will take 30 minutes in bad traffic. Assuming they left from Brooks it would probably be about 15 minutes. It would have been cool to see some of the Brooks athletes pacing at the Brooks PR invite...even if that is not in line with the "rules" just a thought.
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brighteyes wrote:
brighteyes wrote:
He and a lot of the other British athletes are very pumped about the Commonwealth games. Laura Muir brings them up a lot and I have heard or read Kerr talking about the importance of the games to him on several occasions. I think Kerr is trying to thread a needle in training right now in order to try and be ready to perform at his highest level in the Worlds and after in Commonwealth and European. I'm going to give the Olympic medalist the benefit of the doubt.
I forgot to say it, but I am totally agreeing with Podcast listener.
Who cares about the Commonwealths and the Europeans after the World's?
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Yes, but wrote:
brighteyes wrote:
I forgot to say it, but I am totally agreeing with Podcast listener.
Who cares about the Commonwealths and the Europeans after the World's?
Such a lame excuse too. What happened in 2019/2021 (Gets a pass for 2020 from Covid) when he raced ZERO diamond league races? Hocker & Teare have been pro for like 6 months and they have gotten infinitely more criticism than Kerr. Ducking the best runners every year outside of global finals so you can run Stumptown Twilight meets is so lame.
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Ben from marketing wrote:
xcfan2233 wrote:
Teare/Hocker seem to take the brunt of the criticism on here about not racing anyone, but Kerr easily takes the cake. 3:29 bronze medalist has raced once on the DL since going pro in 2018. Doesn't even race Pre which is right in his backyard, come on man.
Both examples are bad for fans. Teare and Hocker could have World Indoor medals right now had they not dismissed attending it. In fact, they might have taken down Jacob as he was sick during the final. For Kerr and the Beasts, it’s sad that we have to google an obscure all-comers meet and still be uncertain that it’s the right one, hours before it takes place.
If Hocker would've skipped USAs for some reason I bet you would've said he'd have made the world's team. Saying they would have a medal if they ran is a bad take.
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