Idc if Donald trump, Barack Obama, or the pope get arrested with weed in Russia. My level of sympathy remains the same: zero.
You also keep using the word “unjust.” Maybe it is by your standards but I love harsh sentences for drugs of any kind.
Normally I would agree. But this isn't a harsh sentence, it's insanity. It's beyond insanity.
Regardless of what AOC may teach you, hating on America isn't cool. And this sentence(not the verdict) is purely hating on America. You and Griner are actually the same.
So one minute I’m hating on the wine and the next I’m following AOC? Can you be consistent please.
Russia is corrupt and extreme. We all know this. Those of us with a couple of brain cells avoid Russia and certainly avoid breaking their rules. You don’t have to fall on any side of the ideological aisle.
Idc if other countries hate on American. I really don’t. The rest of the world can kick rocks.
What a joke of a nation Russia is. This is a farce.
Why - because they have laws at their borders like every other country does? Is Singapore a joke of a nation? Thailand? Malaysia? Their rules regarding bringing prohibited substances through their borders are even harsher than Russia's. The only way this would be a joke or a farce is if these laws and regulations were not known to travellers and they were arbitrarily sprung on Griner, except I have heard or read nothing to support that. Yes vape cartridges seem like a ridiculous thing to be imprisoned for - but that's because we live in America where you can buy weed like any other consumer good now in many states. But again back to the underlying principal, Russia, no matter how much we hate Putin, the ideologies of that place, the war on Ukraine erc, has a right to set the law on their patch of land. End of story.
What is a joke, farce? Let's be honest here - Griner thought she was above the law. She thought she could do what she wanted and get away with it. She has played there 8 years - not a chance in hell she didn't know the law and yet she chose to try and circumvent it. I mean she has nothing to complain about and you can all thumbs down me all you want this is the reality. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you are right and I tell you who cares the least about that - the Russian Federation.
Griner was above the law until she wasn’t. In Russia she was a superstar with favored status. She spent a major fraction of the year in the country and made most of her money there (as do many wnba players. I strongly suspect she was taking CBD oil into the country for years. The Russian authorities knew about it and ignored it until Putin had a fit and decided it was time to turn her into a political pawn. This is not about a sovereign nation fairly enforcing its laws. This is about a corrupt nation that routinely DOES NOT fairly enforce its laws turning on somebody with favored status who was until that point implicitly if not explicitly above the law. Yes, you can argue Griner was stupid to think she was safe and it was business as usual, and she fell into their trap. It was a trap she was already in and then they sprung it on her when it suited Putin. Your not seeing this? Also, she’s not greedy, she’s just trying to get paid like her peers and other pro athletes. The wnba players are underpaid and have to resort to playing overseas to make a fair salary.
Why - because they have laws at their borders like every other country does? Is Singapore a joke of a nation? Thailand? Malaysia? Their rules regarding bringing prohibited substances through their borders are even harsher than Russia's. The only way this would be a joke or a farce is if these laws and regulations were not known to travellers and they were arbitrarily sprung on Griner, except I have heard or read nothing to support that. Yes vape cartridges seem like a ridiculous thing to be imprisoned for - but that's because we live in America where you can buy weed like any other consumer good now in many states. But again back to the underlying principal, Russia, no matter how much we hate Putin, the ideologies of that place, the war on Ukraine erc, has a right to set the law on their patch of land. End of story.
What is a joke, farce? Let's be honest here - Griner thought she was above the law. She thought she could do what she wanted and get away with it. She has played there 8 years - not a chance in hell she didn't know the law and yet she chose to try and circumvent it. I mean she has nothing to complain about and you can all thumbs down me all you want this is the reality. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you are right and I tell you who cares the least about that - the Russian Federation.
Griner was above the law until she wasn’t. In Russia she was a superstar with favored status. She spent a major fraction of the year in the country and made most of her money there (as do many wnba players. I strongly suspect she was taking CBD oil into the country for years. The Russian authorities knew about it and ignored it until Putin had a fit and decided it was time to turn her into a political pawn. This is not about a sovereign nation fairly enforcing its laws. This is about a corrupt nation that routinely DOES NOT fairly enforce its laws turning on somebody with favored status who was until that point implicitly if not explicitly above the law. Yes, you can argue Griner was stupid to think she was safe and it was business as usual, and she fell into their trap. It was a trap she was already in and then they sprung it on her when it suited Putin. Your not seeing this? Also, she’s not greedy, she’s just trying to get paid like her peers and other pro athletes. The wnba players are underpaid and have to resort to playing overseas to make a fair salary.
Your stance was at least tenable until you said she’s underpaid. No athlete is underpaid. They play a game for a living.
Why - because they have laws at their borders like every other country does? Is Singapore a joke of a nation? Thailand? Malaysia? Their rules regarding bringing prohibited substances through their borders are even harsher than Russia's. The only way this would be a joke or a farce is if these laws and regulations were not known to travellers and they were arbitrarily sprung on Griner, except I have heard or read nothing to support that. Yes vape cartridges seem like a ridiculous thing to be imprisoned for - but that's because we live in America where you can buy weed like any other consumer good now in many states. But again back to the underlying principal, Russia, no matter how much we hate Putin, the ideologies of that place, the war on Ukraine erc, has a right to set the law on their patch of land. End of story.
What is a joke, farce? Let's be honest here - Griner thought she was above the law. She thought she could do what she wanted and get away with it. She has played there 8 years - not a chance in hell she didn't know the law and yet she chose to try and circumvent it. I mean she has nothing to complain about and you can all thumbs down me all you want this is the reality. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you are right and I tell you who cares the least about that - the Russian Federation.
Griner was above the law until she wasn’t. In Russia she was a superstar with favored status. She spent a major fraction of the year in the country and made most of her money there (as do many wnba players. I strongly suspect she was taking CBD oil into the country for years. The Russian authorities knew about it and ignored it until Putin had a fit and decided it was time to turn her into a political pawn. This is not about a sovereign nation fairly enforcing its laws. This is about a corrupt nation that routinely DOES NOT fairly enforce its laws turning on somebody with favored status who was until that point implicitly if not explicitly above the law. Yes, you can argue Griner was stupid to think she was safe and it was business as usual, and she fell into their trap. It was a trap she was already in and then they sprung it on her when it suited Putin. Your not seeing this? Also, she’s not greedy, she’s just trying to get paid like her peers and other pro athletes. The wnba players are underpaid and have to resort to playing overseas to make a fair salary.
Do you know for a fact that she was taking CBD oil into the country for years and Russian authorities knew about it until Putin "had a fit".
If you can provide any evidence of this actually being the case rather than what you "strongly suspect" then we can talk about the corrupt state of Russias border law.
Griner was above the law until she wasn’t. In Russia she was a superstar with favored status. She spent a major fraction of the year in the country and made most of her money there (as do many wnba players. I strongly suspect she was taking CBD oil into the country for years. The Russian authorities knew about it and ignored it until Putin had a fit and decided it was time to turn her into a political pawn. This is not about a sovereign nation fairly enforcing its laws. This is about a corrupt nation that routinely DOES NOT fairly enforce its laws turning on somebody with favored status who was until that point implicitly if not explicitly above the law. Yes, you can argue Griner was stupid to think she was safe and it was business as usual, and she fell into their trap. It was a trap she was already in and then they sprung it on her when it suited Putin. Your not seeing this? Also, she’s not greedy, she’s just trying to get paid like her peers and other pro athletes. The wnba players are underpaid and have to resort to playing overseas to make a fair salary.
Your stance was at least tenable until you said she’s underpaid. No athlete is underpaid. They play a game for a living.
Ok, we agree in the main. Griner was foolish to think her protected status was truly protected. I’ll bet you anything they knew she was traveling with hash oil. They let it slide. Griner was helping Putin’s buddies make money and have the best team. When the moment was right, Putin said sorry guys, bigger issues at play, we need to pop her now to stick it to America, cause some strife there and get some of our killers out of American jails. This is exactly what went down. The sentence is extreme to drive up the swap price. As for greed, stop calling it greed to simply try to get paid what your services are worth.
You are so naive as to think the Russians didn’t know exactly what she’s been up to? All of a sudden they decide to search this superstar athlete and know exactly where to look? She’s literally in Russia half the year. She’s using CBD there too. The Russians couldn’t care less. She’s making money for the oligarchs. She’s the star of the best team owned by Putin’s buddy. However, the geopolitics changed and Putin played this card, a card he held all along just waiting. So yes, I know that’s how it goes. Griner was essentially a “dead woman walking.” Putin arrested her at the moment it suited him. His security service knew she carried drugs.
Normally I would agree. But this isn't a harsh sentence, it's insanity. It's beyond insanity.
Regardless of what AOC may teach you, hating on America isn't cool. And this sentence(not the verdict) is purely hating on America. You and Griner are actually the same.
So one minute I’m hating on the wine and the next I’m following AOC? Can you be consistent please.
Russia is corrupt and extreme. We all know this. Those of us with a couple of brain cells avoid Russia and certainly avoid breaking their rules. You don’t have to fall on any side of the ideological aisle.
Idc if other countries hate on American. I really don’t. The rest of the world can kick rocks.
My point is that hating on America isn't cool. Either be for America, or a woke leftist against it. You can hate Brittney Griner, and hate the fact that Russia for decades has unjustly sentenced Americans and even completely made up charges against them to extend their prison stays to use as leverage. You know who hates America? The far left and Russia.
Today, Russia completely unjustly sentenced Brittney Griner. Griner is also an idiot. All these things can be true when we use our brain to form judgements and not Tucker Carlson or AOC.
We care when Russia hates us because they falsely imprison Trump diehards and left wokeist, to force trades for Russian terrorist imprisoned here.
You are so naive as to think the Russians didn’t know exactly what she’s been up to? All of a sudden they decide to search this superstar athlete and know exactly where to look? She’s literally in Russia half the year. She’s using CBD there too. The Russians couldn’t care less. She’s making money for the oligarchs. She’s the star of the best team owned by Putin’s buddy. However, the geopolitics changed and Putin played this card, a card he held all along just waiting. So yes, I know that’s how it goes. Griner was essentially a “dead woman walking.” Putin arrested her at the moment it suited him. His security service knew she carried drugs.
so what you are saying is you have absolutely zero evidence to back up your claim. "His security service knew she carried drugs" - hahaha, that's an all-time claim I have to say. Thoroughly amusing my dude.
So one minute I’m hating on the wine and the next I’m following AOC? Can you be consistent please.
Russia is corrupt and extreme. We all know this. Those of us with a couple of brain cells avoid Russia and certainly avoid breaking their rules. You don’t have to fall on any side of the ideological aisle.
Idc if other countries hate on American. I really don’t. The rest of the world can kick rocks.
My point is that hating on America isn't cool. Either be for America, or a woke leftist against it. You can hate Brittney Griner, and hate the fact that Russia for decades has unjustly sentenced Americans and even completely made up charges against them to extend their prison stays to use as leverage. You know who hates America? The far left and Russia.
Today, Russia completely unjustly sentenced Brittney Griner. Griner is also an idiot. All these things can be true when we use our brain to form judgements and not Tucker Carlson or AOC.
We care when Russia hates us because they falsely imprison Trump diehards and left wokeist, to force trades for Russian terrorist imprisoned here.
What are you even saying? Where did anyone say hating America was cool. I can’t stand the woke left. Just because someone is American doesn’t mean I should blindly support their idiotic decisions.
I don’t care if Russia hates us and I don’t care if they imprison Americans. The solution is don’t go there. Is so simple. Go to Italy, Germany, England, Ireland, Japan or a host of other countries, don’t go to the one who has been our enemy since the 40s
My point is that hating on America isn't cool. Either be for America, or a woke leftist against it. You can hate Brittney Griner, and hate the fact that Russia for decades has unjustly sentenced Americans and even completely made up charges against them to extend their prison stays to use as leverage. You know who hates America? The far left and Russia.
Today, Russia completely unjustly sentenced Brittney Griner. Griner is also an idiot. All these things can be true when we use our brain to form judgements and not Tucker Carlson or AOC.
We care when Russia hates us because they falsely imprison Trump diehards and left wokeist, to force trades for Russian terrorist imprisoned here.
What are you even saying? Where did anyone say hating America was cool. I can’t stand the woke left. Just because someone is American doesn’t mean I should blindly support their idiotic decisions.
I don’t care if Russia hates us and I don’t care if they imprison Americans. The solution is don’t go there. Is so simple. Go to Italy, Germany, England, Ireland, Japan or a host of other countries, don’t go to the one who has been our enemy since the 40s
Right. It's all Griners fault. No one (should be) contesting that. They are saying that countries hating and targeting American citizens with insane punishments to use for prison swaps is immoral. If you love America, (unlike the left), this should bother you. Your solution to not travel to countries that hate the US is only for you. Americans can legally travel to Russia, whether they are there for business, or missionaries, and also demand to be treated fairly by the Russian court system according to Russia's own standards when they break Russia's laws. People who are idiots still deserve fair justice.
What are you even saying? Where did anyone say hating America was cool. I can’t stand the woke left. Just because someone is American doesn’t mean I should blindly support their idiotic decisions.
I don’t care if Russia hates us and I don’t care if they imprison Americans. The solution is don’t go there. Is so simple. Go to Italy, Germany, England, Ireland, Japan or a host of other countries, don’t go to the one who has been our enemy since the 40s
Right. It's all Griners fault. No one (should be) contesting that. They are saying that countries hating and targeting American citizens with insane punishments to use for prison swaps is immoral. If you love America, (unlike the left), this should bother you. Your solution to not travel to countries that hate the US is only for you. Americans can legally travel to Russia, whether they are there for business, or missionaries, and also demand to be treated fairly by the Russian court system according to Russia's own standards when they break Russia's laws. People who are idiots still deserve fair justice.
Why should I be bothered if people make stupid decisions. Of course we can legally travel to other countries, but that doesn’t mean we should.
It is precisely this entitled attitude which is why people hate the US in the first place. “Demand to be treated fairly” reeks of stupidity.
You are so naive as to think the Russians didn’t know exactly what she’s been up to? All of a sudden they decide to search this superstar athlete and know exactly where to look? She’s literally in Russia half the year. She’s using CBD there too. The Russians couldn’t care less. She’s making money for the oligarchs. She’s the star of the best team owned by Putin’s buddy. However, the geopolitics changed and Putin played this card, a card he held all along just waiting. So yes, I know that’s how it goes. Griner was essentially a “dead woman walking.” Putin arrested her at the moment it suited him. His security service knew she carried drugs.
so what you are saying is you have absolutely zero evidence to back up your claim. "His security service knew she carried drugs" - hahaha, that's an all-time claim I have to say. Thoroughly amusing my dude.
Dude thinks Putin even knows or cares about some D Level athlete. Like he's been plotting for years to FINALLY nap that rascally Brittney Griener, and finally his plot was allowed to unfold. F#cking comical!
Occam's Razor my man! She took her stuff over there not thinking and got busted. I'm sure nobody knew she was anything until she was arrested.
Wow, you are so naive. You seriously think this was just a one off “random” search by some airport security officials and they were shocked to find drugs? Griner was an American celebrity working in Russia. Her every move would be monitored by Russian security. She was a positive propaganda tool until it was decided it would be more valuable to arrest her. Yes, this is how it works. If you are truly disputing this is what transpired, then you don’t know anything about how Russia works.