The thing is, next year is the first time he will be training without a teammate. It will be hard to adjust to that. He will be competing against people who are used to training by themselves.
He does have a shot at top 10 next year, or even this year along with Lex/Leo/Sahlman/Seymour.
But next year it will be hard for him to win nats because he won’t have any of those guys around him to push him at practice.
Couple of more class of 2024 candidates I would like to add to the list:
Daniel Simmons from American Fork. He will also have all of his teammates back next year!
Landon Heemeyer from Rocky Mountain. Good program And there is a sophomore in their scoring 5 so he could be a good training partner to him next year.
Sage Wilde, and also Angel Sanchez and Adam Burlinson from Texas
The thing is, next year is the first time he will be training without a teammate. It will be hard to adjust to that. He will be competing against people who are used to training by themselves.
He does have a shot at top 10 next year, or even this year along with Lex/Leo/Sahlman/Seymour.
But next year it will be hard for him to win nats because he won’t have any of those guys around him to push him at practice.
Couple of more class of 2024 candidates I would like to add to the list:
Daniel Simmons from American Fork. He will also have all of his teammates back next year!
Landon Heemeyer from Rocky Mountain. Good program And there is a sophomore in their scoring 5 so he could be a good training partner to him next year.
Sage Wilde, and also Angel Sanchez and Adam Burlinson from Texas
Thanks! It looks like their 4 and 5 tried, again, to go out with the Young's and Sahlman and ended up paying for it. I suspect the same thing happens in training.
Thanks! It looks like their 4 and 5 tried, again, to go out with the Young's and Sahlman and ended up paying for it. I suspect the same thing happens in training.
I would say it’s more like their top 4 went out at Doshi pace, and when he couldn’t hang with it, the four took off.
Here's a question for the Young Bros.- do they go all out at the CIF state meet in order to shoot for German Fernandez's course record of 14:24 or do they run a controlled race so that they optimize their chances to try to win NXN, with its much tougher field? Unlike most of the other competitors at NXN, who have already qualified, NP will only have a week from the state meet to NXN. If it were me I would run the controlled race at states and forego German's record in order to have a better chance at NXN.
Here's a question for the Young Bros.- do they go all out at the CIF state meet in order to shoot for German Fernandez's course record of 14:24 or do they run a controlled race so that they optimize their chances to try to win NXN, with its much tougher field? Unlike most of the other competitors at NXN, who have already qualified, NP will only have a week from the state meet to NXN. If it were me I would run the controlled race at states and forego German's record in order to have a better chance at NXN.
According to most of the people here on letsrun, the Youngs are so much better than anyone else in the country, they should be able to go all out at state and still destroy the competition at NXN.
Here's a question for the Young Bros.- do they go all out at the CIF state meet in order to shoot for German Fernandez's course record of 14:24 or do they run a controlled race so that they optimize their chances to try to win NXN, with its much tougher field? Unlike most of the other competitors at NXN, who have already qualified, NP will only have a week from the state meet to NXN. If it were me I would run the controlled race at states and forego German's record in order to have a better chance at NXN.
According to most of the people here on letsrun, the Youngs are so much better than anyone else in the country, they should be able to go all out at state and still destroy the competition at NXN.
There were posts saying that Hunter Jones can take them. His NXR performance was first rate. The margins are close against the likes of Jones, Gorze, et al, so not being at optimal fitness could make the difference. The Young Bros. are terrific, but it's not like they're Eliud Kipchoge against Connor Mantz. The field at NXN will challenge them.
No. They should be preseason 1, 2, 3, but someone(s) elsewhere will develop and break up the group. Here’s my random prediction.
1. Lex or Leo
2. Birnbaum or Burns
3 Lex or Leo
4. Birnbaum or Burns or Gorze
5. Sahlman
6. Some Sophomore or Junior
Agree with this but actually think Gorze is most likely to hit that second spot. There are tons of crazy underclassmen as well who could break it up. Recupero in Washington is a crazy undertrained taken with 4:07/9:02 as a freshman.
Danny Simmons did a frickin heck of a job doing that!!!!! What a BEEEST!!!!!!
I know Fall 2023 is way too far ahead but I think it would be fun to make a wayyyyyy to early prediction for the top 10 for that year. Although there might be some sophs or juniors come out of the woodwork even this coming fall.
1. Keegan Smith 2. Jimmy Wischuen 3-5: the 3 Parras 6. Will Conway 7. Vincent Recupero 8. Patrick Koon 9. Seth Norder 10. Dev Doshi
I think there will be at least 2 juniors in the top 10 in fall 2023.
Does Marcus Reilly not really focus on XC or is he more of an 800-mile track guy? I’m not sure why he didn’t run the big races to get a good speed rating last year, but if his fitness extends out to 5k and he focuses on it, he seems like the no. 1. He’s a top pick to be the first sub-4 miler from this group.
Marcus Reilly is solid but I don’t think he is a good as Daniel Simmons
Hard to imagine another team will ever pull off the 1-2-3-6 at a national meet again, however Newbury park is returning the 2-3-6 of that equation this coming XC season in Leo Young, Lex Young, and Aaron Sahlman. The twins were undefeated last xc by everyone not wearing yellow and black, and the only two outsiders (4 flat miler Zane Bergen and Footlocker champ Riley Hough) able to beat Aaron have both since graduated.
From the results of the '21 season, another medal sweep would look almost inevidable in 2022. However during outdoor several top juniors have ran faster over the mile than all 3 of these Panthers, and a handful have ran faster than Aaron in the 3200.
Do the likes of Burns, Birnbaum, Caudillo or any of the other rising stars from this spring have what it takes to interrupt Newbury's trifecta of top scorers?
Does Marcus Reilly not really focus on XC or is he more of an 800-mile track guy? I’m not sure why he didn’t run the big races to get a good speed rating last year, but if his fitness extends out to 5k and he focuses on it, he seems like the no. 1. He’s a top pick to be the first sub-4 miler from this group.
Well this aged just about as well as the title of the thread
No one will beat the Youngs. Potential candidates to beat Aaron Sahlman: Connor Burns (8:45 2-mile (faster than Aaron’s 3200 time), 3:58 mile) Simeon Birnbaum (3:59 mile) Rocky Hansen (4-flat mile (slightly faster than Aaron’s 1600), 8:46 2-mile (faster than Aaron’s 3200)) Devan Kipyego (4 flat mile) Chris Caudillo (his 3200 is 3 seconds faster than Aaron’s 3200) Maybe Tyrone Gorze but his mile time wasn’t faster than Aaron’s but he had some awesome 5K and 10k times in track