If someone says that CAS said something they did not say, that is called a lie. Doubling down on a lie doesn't sound like an intelligent, winning argument.
How is that materially different from the submission before the Panel, that it did not differ with, that "the explanation presupposes a cascade of factual and scientific improbabilities, which means that its composite probability is (very) close to zero"?
If someone says that CAS said something they did not say, that is called a lie. Doubling down on a lie doesn't sound like an intelligent, winning argument.
What was claimed is that the "near-zero" assessment came from experts, and was part of the evidence before CAS, which the Panel did not refute.
It's about as informative as observing spittle coming out of the side of your mouth.
This is the kind of no-value no-intellect post we've come to expect from you. When you have no merit, you resort to insults that are more appropriately directed to your mirror.
I thought I had just said that about you - "no value no intellect post". You are a little slow.
"I guess my whining might stop once necessary WADA Code reform has tipped the balance back to fairness for all innocent athletes, in line with the stated missions and visions and goals of both WADA and the AIU."(quote)
You haven't found an innocent athlete, as your choice of Houlihan to fight this battle shows.
No one can really say for sure, as the WADA Code is broken and in need of reform.
No, it isn't, because you base your claim that it is "broken" on an athlete you cannot show to be innocent.
No one can really say for sure, as the WADA Code is broken and in need of reform.
No, it isn't, because you base your claim that it is "broken" on an athlete you cannot show to be innocent.
I note you haven't disputed "no one can really say for sure".
It is no claim but a logical conclusion. The basis for my conclusion is no single athlete, but the WADA Code itself, where the rule violations of presence and use do not require establishing intent, fault, negligence, or knowledge, and a policy of "strict liability" which makes the athlete responsible for many things which they may be unaware of and are not in their control.
This allows athletes to be found of rule violations where the intent, fault, negligence, or knowledge is not known because it was not established.
The CAS only ruled on one of these four factors, on the strength of "not intentional not probably established", which still leaves room for a lot of doubt.
If someone says that CAS said something they did not say, that is called a lie. Doubling down on a lie doesn't sound like an intelligent, winning argument.
What was claimed is that the "near-zero" assessment came from experts, and was part of the evidence before CAS, which the Panel did not refute.
But keep doubling down on your lies, as you do.
Once you start building your ideas on lies, you need to keep lying. After 5 decades of self-deception, you are probably completely unaware that you do it instinctively and reflexively, bypassing the higher order logic circuitry in your brain. This is the tangled web you have trapped yourself in.
Back to reality:
What was actually claimed was "media reports stating..." quotes like the one from the Guardian: e.g. "Cas says ‘close to zero’ probability burrito led to Shelby Houlihan’s failed drugs test" (Guardian).
The media lied to me and you, but you find some reflexive way to rationalize the lie. The Guardian explicitly attributes many direct quotes to the CAS, rather than the "Claimant". This is clearly a false attribution.
Note also that the "Claimant" here is "World Athletics", represented by Attorney Ross Wenzel. So the CAS themselves attributed this "near zero" assessment to "World Athletics", and not to the "experts". Your attributing this assessment to the "experts" is another false attribution.
And finally, note the CAS was asked to assess the weight of Houlihan's arguments, and not the claimant's.
What was claimed is that the "near-zero" assessment came from experts, and was part of the evidence before CAS, which the Panel did not refute.
But keep doubling down on your lies, as you do.
Once you start building your ideas on lies, you need to keep lying. After 5 decades of self-deception, you are probably completely unaware that you do it instinctively and reflexively, bypassing the higher order logic circuitry in your brain. This is the tangled web you have trapped yourself in.
Back to reality:
What was actually claimed was "media reports stating..." quotes like the one from the Guardian: e.g. "Cas says ‘close to zero’ probability burrito led to Shelby Houlihan’s failed drugs test" (Guardian).
The media lied to me and you, but you find some reflexive way to rationalize the lie. The Guardian explicitly attributes many direct quotes to the CAS, rather than the "Claimant". This is clearly a false attribution.
Note also that the "Claimant" here is "World Athletics", represented by Attorney Ross Wenzel. So the CAS themselves attributed this "near zero" assessment to "World Athletics", and not to the "experts". Your attributing this assessment to the "experts" is another false attribution.
And finally, note the CAS was asked to assess the weight of Houlihan's arguments, and not the claimant's.
You are correct.
It was a disgrace of the Guardian to misquote.
And then; if you can’t be bothered to read the rules you perpetuate the lie.
This is the kind of no-value no-intellect post we've come to expect from you. When you have no merit, you resort to insults that are more appropriately directed to your mirror.
I thought I had just said that about you - "no value no intellect post". You are a little slow.
Did you think? This looks like an autonomous reflex requiring no thought.
Your game of resorting to personal insults is transparent, and doesn't accomplish what you want -- hiding your intellectual inability to participate in intelligent discussion.
What it demonstrates is your inability to rebut or dispute anything and everything here:
This thread is purely about what Tygart thinks -- you must care since you are reading and writing in it.
Mayotte? Do you mean Prof. Ayotte? I guess the WA/AIU cared what Prof. Ayotte thought enough to ask her to give expert opinions on their behalf. Interesting you say her thoughts are irrelevant.
I guess many someones care what Tygart thinks as someone sought to interview Tygart, and letsrun featured Tygart's quotes on their front page, and at least two threads have been started about Tygart's statements. They didn't do that just for me.
I guess my whining might stop once necessary WADA Code reform has tipped the balance back to fairness for all innocent athletes, in line with the stated missions and visions and goals of both WADA and the AIU.
But once again, you oddly resort to ineptly and inaccurately trying to re-explain the steps of the very process that Tygart says needs reform, as if the rambling gospels and fallacious inferences of a traveling preacher can add any value to the topic.
There is simply no way to tell from the process if Houlihan is a "doping cheat", because the process doesn't require establishing, and did not establish, that.
It's getting tiring pointing out all your factual mistakes, but this one highlights your jumbled thoughts: "It isn't up to WADA to establish the source." The obvious fact is that WADA was not a party in this dispute. The dispute was between Houlihan and the WA/AIU, and was brought before the CAS. WADA was just the author of a process that all of these parties are subservient to, that Tygart has repeatedly argued.
If someone says that CAS said something they did not say, that is called a lie. Doubling down on a lie doesn't sound like an intelligent, winning argument.
What was claimed is that the "near-zero" assessment came from experts, and was part of the evidence before CAS, which the Panel did not refute.
But keep doubling down on your lies, as you do.
Have you ever seen “F For Fake” by Oregon Welles?
“Expert” means nothing, under many circumstances - particularly if the expert’s heart isn’t in the right place (Ayotte for example).
Decisions made by “experts” over the last number of years brought forth the VACCINE MANDATES and the allowance of INTERSEX athletes in events above the mile!
No one can really say for sure, as the WADA Code is broken and in need of reform.
No, it isn't, because you base your claim that it is "broken" on an athlete you cannot show to be innocent.
The major Nando’s have said the Code needs revising to ensure that the athlete has the same rights and expectations as in basic society. Innocent until proven guilty would be my expectations.As well a full application of Human Rights Law.