California Boys Masters Meet 1600m - DUMB

The opt outs may have been influenced by the process. So yes I was counting them in this. This happened a few years ago as well with Tamagno as well. I think we should do what it takes to make sure the best athletes are there at the state meet.

So Cal is going to get worked at State. Kid from Clovis will win, Scotts Valley 2nd. Book it.

I'll put my money on SV. ;) As long as he doesnt lap a kid and they try to take him out.

You're right. Another good reason to change the CIF southern section qualifying process.

Some southern section coaches don't even realize the CIF southern section are hurting themselves. I guess if you're not basketball or football who cares, right.

The CIF southern section staff just keeps collecting their non profit salaries.

(It's all about the kids- I don't think so)

Key Employees and Officers
Compensation (2020)
Robert Wigod (Commissioner)
$234,614. (He was 216,000 in 2018. They all got big raises)

Mitchell Carty (CFO)
$160,257

Kristine Palle (Asst. Commissioner)
$159,334

Rainer Wulf (Asst. Commissioner)
$158,431

Michael Middlebrook (Asst. Commissioner)
$151,739

Thomas R Simmons (Asst. Commissioner)
$143,526

So Cal won't get worked I say the kid from Agoura will place in the 1600 as he has good range from the 800 to the 3200. The real race is the 800 as you have quite a few 1:50 800 meter runners this year so the winning time may be sub 1:50.

It’s pretty similar to SJS that I have coached in for many years, so I understand the system so I get it. But using athletes doing multiple events really shouldn’t be the argument. If you are doing that then you are going to be over races regardless. If we are changing it because some want to go race pros then that’s pointless. They aren’t going to do CIF if it’s different and pass on the pro races.

Caudillo probably will win. Parra, the 10th grader, from Millikan should put up a good fight.

With winds expected to be 15mph Sat night in Clovis, I highly doubt a sub 1:50 happens. Dawson has looked unbeatable this year, so I would pick him in a very close finish over Sahlman and Delvechio and Roberts. Winner may only be 1:52, but it could be one of best stretch runs we have seen in a while.

boys 300 hurdles #1 and #4 are both missing

It's not windy this weekend so sub 1:50 could happen Dawson just got beat last week I say he gets second or third probably had a better shot at the 1600 could have sit and kicked on Claudio.

Where do you see it won't be windy? I just googled clovis ca weather and the wind Sat at 7pm is now up again, to a predicted 17mph. I truly, truly hope that is wrong.

wind willy weather gives hour by hour report says it will be 11 mph at the time they will be running which is a gentle breeze. It was a lot windier at Moorpark and the winning time was 1:51.

So your saying Sahlman who has run 1:48 and change is not the favorite in the 800. ?

Those prelims are crazy. Does any other state require 800 and 1600 runners to run prelims the day before the finals? I remember some years where kids were running 4:11.x in the mile and not qualifying for the mile final the next day, while they'd win state in over 40 other states.

Not that I know of. And some of the runners are running BOTH the 800 and 1600, like Sadie Engelhardt and Mia Chavez.

Aaron Sahlman has looked pretty worn out for the last 5 weeks. Every since his lousy 1:56 in the DMR at Mt SAC Relays.

I saw him run on Saturday, and he was really struggling. He looks nothing like a 1:48 runner right now.

The sections really are hopeless especially the governing bodies of different ones. I compete in LA city and my route to state is so much easier and honestly, it sucks we don't get to compete with all these SS teams because I think it would really help push the section. On the other hand though I think a divide is necessary because LA city section teams are at a disadvantage by being a part of LAUSD. I didn't get to even meet my highschool team until April of my freshman year and only got four meets because of how tight LAUSD restrictions were. The training restrictions were crazy too and a lot of the restrictions are still in place. I think we're moving in the right direction somehow though and hopefully LA will be competitive enough soon so that people don't feel we're abusing how we qualify for state.

It is very close, and he is a favorite, but not the favorite obvious favorite in my opinion, That 1:48.91 was run in perfect conditions, drafting his brother with perfect pacing with no completive jostling. It was a friendly time trial, not a harshly completive race. Both Delvichio and Dawson ran solo times that were only 1,2 and 1.7 seconds slower, and in not as ideal conditions. Sahlman may indeed have the maximum potential time, but if he tries to go right to the front and simply outrun everyone I think the wind will wear him down. He didn't run well in a similar scenario at the Mt Sac relays. The tactics will be interesting. I wonder if anyone will try to take it out really hard, but with the wind I doubt it.

It certainly makes it a lot harder to double, let alone triple. A lot of athletes who think their best shot is the 800 or 3200 will skip the 1600.