I am wanting to know who in the states coaches top Steeple/1500m guys ? I am based in Australia and would be interested the differance in training methods used in the States. From what I can see the Steeple guys in the states have alot better range then the Aussie guys and can run great 1500m & 5000m when in Shape for steeple.
Steeple? Hands down, Robert Gary...1500m, he's not so bad at that either. Rob Myers was his athlete, and Jeff See will be the next.
Gary all the way
I’ll go out on a limb and say that Mark Conover of Cal Poly is a great coach. Here are the top times from last year.
Bill Gallagher and Robert Gary are a great combo of coaches, and they both coach a great steeple and 1500m. ive heard/know a great deal about both of them. Gary coaches OSU, Gallagher, Ashland University.
Can anyone give us some links or examples of the types of training ?
Who is the USATF steeple chair? Doesn't he/she come up with the basic training for the USA steeplers after college?
Gallagher used to coach at Ashland, he was run out by a bunch of administrative twats...they actually had the nerve to build a new indoor track (5 lanes 200 meters) and they are not going to allow the track team to use the facility...
coyniehnere wrote:
Can anyone give us some links or examples of the types of training ?
Gary used to hold a winter steeple camp. I'm not sure if he still does, but it might be worth looking into for those interested.
He only did it for one year I believe. It was all bginners though I think; he'd probably love to do a more elite type one (9:00 guys at least).
I wouldn't say Im elite but I have run 8.42 in the past, and after getting over ongoing problem over the past 18 months I am sure with 12 months good build up I could run alot faster than this. It just hard trying to get in contact with the right people, and be in Australia the coaching advise would by via email....
Another vote for Rob Gary. Another thought would be his coach whom now coaches at Kent State, Mark Crogan. OSU has got a stable of decent training partners if your looking for immediate results...think 8:19 Olinger and another, Fisher sub 8:50, plus Rob himself.
RunOllieRun wrote:
Another vote for Rob Gary. Another thought would be his coach whom now coaches at Kent State, Mark Crogan. OSU has got a stable of decent training partners if your looking for immediate results...think 8:19 Olinger and another, Fisher sub 8:50, plus Rob himself.
Raab Himself?
RunOllieRun wrote:
Another vote for Rob Gary. Another thought would be his coach whom now coaches at Kent State, Mark Crogan. OSU has got a stable of decent training partners if your looking for immediate results...think 8:19 Olinger and another, Fisher sub 8:50, plus Rob himself.
Ye of little knowledge, Lee Labadie coached / coaches / advises both Croghan and Gary. He is the master of the steeple. I think he is now in real estate in Columbus, Ohio making real money.
We know Labadie has input with both, but at the 96 trials, Gary credited Croghan..
Surprised that nobody has given any props to John McDonnel or Henry Marshs coach
Chick Hislop, Weber State University. Actually Martin Smith of former Wisconsin and Oregon fame is a good steeple coach. He learned from Chick Hislop and is now at Oklahoma.
Martin Smith at the Univeristy of OK.
1500 guys as low as 3:33, steeple guys under 8:20.
Martin Smith, who has coached five national championship teams during a 26-year tenure on the NCAA Division I level, became the University of Oklahoma’s sixth head track and field coach on June 30, 2005.
Smith, 53, has been head cross country coach or head cross country and track and field coach at George Mason, Virginia, Wisconsin and, most recently, Oregon, where he was director of men’s and women’s track and field and cross country from 2003 through March of this year when he resigned. He was men’s track and field and cross country head coach at UO from 1998-2003 when he assumed control of all of the track and field and cross country programs.
He has been the head coach or an assistant for teams that combined for 24 conference championships, including the 2003 Pac-10 outdoor title he won with Oregon.
“This is a very exciting day for our track and field and cross country programs,” OU Director of Athletics Joe Castiglione said upon his hiring. “Martin Smith has earned the respect and admiration of many throughout the national and international track and field communities. He has an impressive record of achievement everywhere he has been. His student-athletes excel both on and off the track and understand that the championship mentality can apply to all of their life’s pursuits.
“His professional and personal references led us to the conclusion that he is the person which can best represent the values of our program and can build a program of national stature. We look forward to having him join our Sooner family.”
Smith guided Oregon to nine NCAA top 20 team finishes, while mentoring individuals who claimed 48 All-America honors and 17 Pac-10 titles.
In his most recent season, the 2004-05 indoor campaign, Smith led the Duck men to a sixth-place finish at the NCAA meet, tops among the Pac-10 schools. UO sent nine qualifiers to the NCAA meet with eight achieving All-America honors.
Oregon realized outdoor success under Smith, too. The men’s team was second, first and second in his last three Pac-10 meets (2002-04) and was ninth in the 2004 NCAA Outdoor Championships.
Other strong finishes with the Ducks included a 13th place finish at nationals in the 2003 NCAA Outdoor and a 2003 men’s Pac-10 Outdoor title (the first for Oregon since 1993). In the fall of that school year, the Oregon cross country team was fifth at nationals.
The 2002 indoor men’s team was ninth at the NCAA Championships and Smith earned conference and region coach of the year honors.
In 2001, Smith led Oregon’s men to a ninth-place finish at the NCAA Outdoor Championships.
Prior to his move to Oregon, Smith spent 1983-98 coaching the men’s cross country team at Wisconsin, while serving as assistant men’s track and field coach.
He coached two men’s national championship cross country teams there (1985, 1988), and his teams won 12 Big Ten titles. Thirty-three of his runners were All-Americans and one was the national champion.
On the track, Smith helped UW to 10 NCAA top 20 finishes and nine Big Ten titles. He coached 49 NCAA All-Americans and 32 individual Big Ten champions.
Smith was head men’s and women’s cross country coach at Virginia from 1980-83. There he coached the women’s cross country team to national championships in 1981 and 1982.
His first job in the college ranks came in 1979 when he served as men’s cross country coach and assistant men’s track and field coach at George Mason.
A native of Alexandria, Va., Smith attended Bridgewater College and graduated in 1974 with degrees in history and political science. He was married to Renee Schwister on Feb. 12, 1999, and Renee has one son, Ross