And don't spew your 'cause-of-death nonsense'.....we all know that total deaths are way up.
How do you account for the excess death numbers? oh...that's right.....that's your cue to slink away.
Crickets. lol. As usual you have nothing.
Hmmmmm, I feel like roughly 80 years ago(about the average death with covid age) something happened. Like a massive population boom in the United States. Coincidentally 80 years later were seeing higher numbers of deaths. I can’t possibly understand why that could be happening. Literally, can’t think of a single thing.
Hmmmmm, I feel like roughly 80 years ago(about the average death with covid age) something happened. Like a massive population boom in the United States. Coincidentally 80 years later were seeing higher numbers of deaths. I can’t possibly understand why that could be happening. Literally, can’t think of a single thing.
Is being this deliberately obtuse or ignorant something you can learn, or are covidiots just born with it?
Hmmmmm, I feel like roughly 80 years ago(about the average death with covid age) something happened. Like a massive population boom in the United States. Coincidentally 80 years later were seeing higher numbers of deaths. I can’t possibly understand why that could be happening. Literally, can’t think of a single thing.
oh wow! I never thought of that! Amazing connecting of the dots....
Amazing that people were born and happen to be dying almost exactly in lock step with the rise and fall of cases of Covid, on a week-by-week basis. (giving the short lag between cases and deaths of course)
How did people know when to be born 80 years ago so that thy would just happen to die of natural causes in the same exact weeks we would expect there to a rise in COVID deaths? Remarkable!
Must have been so complicated to make sure an extra 20,000 people were dying of naturals causes a week when COVID was surging and then convince all these old people to not die so that almost no people above the expected number were dying in all the other weeks. It's not an easy thing to have people die exactly on schedule.
This conspiracy runs deeeeppppp!
Well done, Detective.
On question.....how did all these people know not to start dying until exactly when Covid started? If they are just extra old boomers dying of natural causes you'd think we'd have seen some spikes above the estimates before Covid. It's almost as if we already accounted for the extra deaths in an aging population and then something completely new and unexpected came along to cause a million more deaths than would have been expected. But, then again, I'm no detective.
Fauci, an HIV expert, had no clue about community masking for a high transmissible respiratory virus, especially in early 2020. The CDC and NIH have communicated terribly over the course of the pandemic.
The Yale/Bangladesh study does not show a “1% reduction,” it shows an 11% reduction in seroprevalence over the study course. Meaning 11% fewer people got COVID in communities where 40% of the people masked daily as opposed to places where 15% did. Remember most places in the US had >>> 40% community masking. If you can’t see the value in these data, you are just blindly writing off anything to favor your dogma. Nothing is 100% effective. In periods of high viral spread indoor, public masking masking make sense.
Quit with your straw man argument of, “Nothing is 100% effective.”
what straw man are you trying to argue with?
I clearly saw the graph that less than 1% difference in symptoms between masks, not wearing masks.
Sorry, clearly masks did jack. It’s just to make people feel better. Vaccines work. Vaccines reduce hospitalization and deaths. Masks do nothing. Masks are useless for kids forced to wear all day. Masks are worthless to wear to get seated to your table at a restaurant. Masks are useless at a zoo(believe it or not, this is mandatory in Seattle).
Another person who doesn't understand how small absolute effect sizes can have massive impacts during periods of exponential growth.
Under your math, the vaccines are useless too because they reduce the absolute risk of serious COVID case by a seemingly inconsequentially small number. Yet, when coupled with massive case rates, high transmissibility, and exponential growth in general, the vaccines have save millions of lives.
The logic is the same -- fixating on absolute risk reduction is not a useful metric most of the time. The data on masks show they work quite well considering their cost, risk, and ease of use. If you accept the RCT data on vaccines you need to accept the same on masks.
Hmmmmm, I feel like roughly 80 years ago(about the average death with covid age) something happened. Like a massive population boom in the United States. Coincidentally 80 years later were seeing higher numbers of deaths. I can’t possibly understand why that could be happening. Literally, can’t think of a single thing.
Quit with your straw man argument of, “Nothing is 100% effective.”
what straw man are you trying to argue with?
I clearly saw the graph that less than 1% difference in symptoms between masks, not wearing masks.
Sorry, clearly masks did jack. It’s just to make people feel better. Vaccines work. Vaccines reduce hospitalization and deaths. Masks do nothing. Masks are useless for kids forced to wear all day. Masks are worthless to wear to get seated to your table at a restaurant. Masks are useless at a zoo(believe it or not, this is mandatory in Seattle).
Another person who doesn't understand how small absolute effect sizes can have massive impacts during periods of exponential growth.
Under your math, the vaccines are useless too because they reduce the absolute risk of serious COVID case by a seemingly inconsequentially small number. Yet, when coupled with massive case rates, high transmissibility, and exponential growth in general, the vaccines have save millions of lives.
The logic is the same -- fixating on absolute risk reduction is not a useful metric most of the time. The data on masks show they work quite well considering their cost, risk, and ease of use. If you accept the RCT data on vaccines you need to accept the same on masks.
No, there’s big difference with how effective vaccine is in reducing hospitalization and deaths.
with mask, in absolute term in that study, it’s less than 1%. yea, going from 7% to 8% is 11% increase but not enough to justify the use. Apparently, most of the US agree and mask mandate is mostly going away as it’s the dumbest mandate ever. Especially with cloth masks that people are forced to wear to walk into a restaurant. And then, can take it off once you sit down. If you really don’t want Covid, then don’t go out in the first place. But stop pretending to be safe when you wear a mask to walk into a restaurant and take it off as soon as you sit down at a crowded restaurant.
i mean, most people don’t care, but are afraid of getting attacked by Karens of the world.
In the end , WA looks like it handled the COVID crisis better than almost every other state.
I wouldn't say WA handled COVID better than almost every other state. Some of the differential is due to climate (which is why west coast in general did better than east coast). Utah and Nebraska probably did the best IMHO, as both have low death rates and low unemployment rates (as neither one really enacted shutdowns on their economies). Washington state is number five in death rate, but number 30 in unemployment rate. Utah is #3 in death rate and #2 in unemployment rate. Nebraska is #10 in death rate and #1 in unemployment rate. California is #13 in death rate, but dead last in unemployment rate. New York is 4th worst in unemployment and 6th worst in death rate.
Another person who doesn't understand how small absolute effect sizes can have massive impacts during periods of exponential growth.
Under your math, the vaccines are useless too because they reduce the absolute risk of serious COVID case by a seemingly inconsequentially small number. Yet, when coupled with massive case rates, high transmissibility, and exponential growth in general, the vaccines have save millions of lives.
The logic is the same -- fixating on absolute risk reduction is not a useful metric most of the time. The data on masks show they work quite well considering their cost, risk, and ease of use. If you accept the RCT data on vaccines you need to accept the same on masks.
No, there’s big difference with how effective vaccine is in reducing hospitalization and deaths.
with mask, in absolute term in that study, it’s less than 1%. yea, going from 7% to 8% is 11% increase but not enough to justify the use. Apparently, most of the US agree and mask mandate is mostly going away as it’s the dumbest mandate ever. Especially with cloth masks that people are forced to wear to walk into a restaurant. And then, can take it off once you sit down. If you really don’t want Covid, then don’t go out in the first place. But stop pretending to be safe when you wear a mask to walk into a restaurant and take it off as soon as you sit down at a crowded restaurant.
i mean, most people don’t care, but are afraid of getting attacked by Karens of the world.
There's not really big difference in absolute terms of the risk of death w/ vs. w/o a vaccine. The difference is far less than 1% (say.. ~1 in 300 chance of dying without vaccine in a year vs 1:20,000 so 0.3% vs 0.005%). That does not mean vaccines are not effective. They are extremely effective! It just highlights the error in looking at differences in absolute risk, like 7% vs 8%.
The Bangaldesh RCT was great because it showed what masks do in a real world situation. Compliance was not great in the study but a decent effect was still seen! That suggests that masks are even more effective than the study shows assuming perfect compliance.
Your opinion is that an 11% decrease is not enough to justify use. Given the low cost of masking, most policy makers would disagree, especially in times of exponential growth.
The reason mask mandates are going away is because COVID incidence is rapidly receding in many parts of the US.
I don't pretend that a mask makes me magically 100% safe, but it's quite clear that they can help limit transmission with a relatively tiny burden on the user.