Study finds vitamin D provides significant protection from covid

@high school wrote:

high school xc coach wrote:

this is interesting. I know there has been talk about this for a long time but we know correlation/ causation often does not line up. this is good news indeed if studies are showing vitamin d to be be an effective therapeutic.

this kind of thing never seems to find a way into the mainstream for whatever reason

See if you can find it on, oh, I don't know, CNN.

Because you can. But just keep on repeating the same tired old trope that mainstream media doesn't want you to know the truth.

Scary that someone so out of touch with reality is a high school coach.

Could you provide a link, please?

I just went to CNN dot com. I looked at the main health page. Then, I did a search for vitamin D by relevance. Then, I search for vitamin D by date. Then, I search for Israeli. I found NOTHING on this new study. In fact, I found nothing at all on vitamin D and covid... not one single article with vitamin D and covid in the title. I searched as far back as November 2020.

So if CNN has covered this, please give us the link.

There was a an interview where Fauci admitted under direct questioning that yes, he "...takes some vitamin D every day". It was almost like he hoped his bosses wouldn't catch that he let that slip out. True evil incarnate, that one, and his pharma overlords.

SummerSlogger wrote:

Also you generally only need to be in the sunlight 30 minutes a day to maintain regular levels of Vitamin D. It's not like you have to be a day laborer toiling away outside for 8 hrs a day.

I live in sunny Arizona and run in bright sun every day at midday in t-shirt and shorts most of the time (not supplementing). Vit D was just tested at 32 ng/ml, which is low normal. I honestly don’t think it’s possible to have adequate Vit D levels in the winter from sun exposure alone.

Interesting thread, but many have not taken the time to understand what the study actually says and instead use headlines and summaries to attack Fauci, Liberals, Mainstream media, and Pharma. Take the time to actually read what the study found (and recognize it is one study).

The conclusions are that "pre-infection deficiency of vitamin D was associated with increased disease severity and mortality."

So please, everyone, ensure you are getting enough Vitamin D from sunshine and/or supplements. This appears to help your immune system for other things, not just Covid per peer-reviewed studies. But there are safe and unsafe levels of Vitamin D (it is fat soluble and can build to unsafe levels causing serious issues) and you should know your levels and behave accordingly. That means talking to a reputable medical professional - not Internet sales pitches, not Joe Rogan.

There is not evidence that if you are not deficient that it will have an impact.

There is not evidence that taking Vitamin D as a therapeutic will help recover (ie. once you have Covid)

There is evidence that more is not always better with a fat soluble vitamin like Vitamin D

There is no evidence that "mainstream" media is hiding this information

There is no evidence that Fauci is hiding this

There is evidence that taking medical advice from quacks, talkshow hosts, and charlatans can lead to worse health outcomes

There is evidence that doctors and the media have tried to parse the subtleties in emerging studies of Covid treatments, therapeutics, and preventive measures

Have fun, get some sun, ensure you eat well, take precautions based on science, and understand that there is not some grand conspiracy out there to get you.

fisky wrote:

@high school wrote:

See if you can find it on, oh, I don't know, CNN.

Because you can. But just keep on repeating the same tired old trope that mainstream media doesn't want you to know the truth.

Scary that someone so out of touch with reality is a high school coach.

Could you provide a link, please?

I just went to CNN dot com. I looked at the main health page. Then, I did a search for vitamin D by relevance. Then, I search for vitamin D by date. Then, I search for Israeli. I found NOTHING on this new study. In fact, I found nothing at all on vitamin D and covid... not one single article with vitamin D and covid in the title. I searched as far back as November 2020.

So if CNN has covered this, please give us the link.

All I could find:

Sunshine Superman wrote:

There is not evidence that if you are not deficient that it will have an impact.

There is not evidence that taking Vitamin D as a therapeutic will help recover (ie. once you have Covid)

The study’s findings are even weaker in that it is finding a correlation but doesn’t imply causation, i.e., the study does not suggest that even if one is deficient, starting to take Vitamin D would would reduce the risk of severe covid.

winter sun. wrote:

SummerSlogger wrote:

Also you generally only need to be in the sunlight 30 minutes a day to maintain regular levels of Vitamin D. It's not like you have to be a day laborer toiling away outside for 8 hrs a day.

I live in sunny Arizona and run in bright sun every day at midday in t-shirt and shorts most of the time (not supplementing). Vit D was just tested at 32 ng/ml, which is low normal. I honestly don’t think it’s possible to have adequate Vit D levels in the winter from sun exposure alone.

Agreed. I live in sunny California and spend quite a bit of time outdoors every day, and my Vit D was stuck in the 20-25 ng/ml range until I started taking 5000 IU/day of supplemental D3. Now it's up to 63 ng/ml. I believe some people just don't synthesize enough D even with significant sun exposure.

runne wrote:

Sunshine Superman wrote:

There is not evidence that if you are not deficient that it will have an impact.

There is not evidence that taking Vitamin D as a therapeutic will help recover (ie. once you have Covid)

The study’s findings are even weaker in that it is finding a correlation but doesn’t imply causation, i.e., the study does not suggest that even if one is deficient, starting to take Vitamin D would would reduce the risk of severe covid.

but like, fisky's whole deal is doing his own research and applying his dubious logic so he can be sure he's his own man. There's just this weird psychological profile: skepticism about mainstream thought and advice, plus a complete lack of doubt about one's own thoughts and opinions. Bring on the 3kg vitamin D supplements bro

The study's conclusion:

Among hospitalized COVID-19 patients, pre-infection deficiency of vitamin D was associated with increased disease severity and mortality.

So it's not just looking at the outcomes of people who got covid, but people who were hospitalized with covid. Huge difference.

And you know what decreases your chance of hospitalization? And decreases the severity of covid infection? The vaccine. Reinventing the got-damn wheel here, I swear. It's like some people would really rather come up with their own answers even if the result is less useful than just following public health advice. All in the name of free thinking. Everything is about identity

You seem very worked up. Please get professional help before taking extreme measures.

117 dubious conclusions every runner should know wrote:

The study's conclusion:

Among hospitalized COVID-19 patients, pre-infection deficiency of vitamin D was associated with increased disease severity and mortality.

So it's not just looking at the outcomes of people who got covid, but people who were hospitalized with covid. Huge difference.

And you know what decreases your chance of hospitalization? And decreases the severity of covid infection? The vaccine. Reinventing the got-damn wheel here, I swear. It's like some people would really rather come up with their own answers even if the result is less useful than just following public health advice. All in the name of free thinking. Everything is about identity

Covid-19 is like so 2020. It's 2022. I don't know what y'all r so worried about?

One of the side effects of vitamin D deficiency is depression, one of the reasons some suffer from SAD.

this is it wrote:

fisky wrote:

Could you provide a link, please?

I just went to CNN dot com. I looked at the main health page. Then, I did a search for vitamin D by relevance. Then, I search for vitamin D by date. Then, I search for Israeli. I found NOTHING on this new study. In fact, I found nothing at all on vitamin D and covid... not one single article with vitamin D and covid in the title. I searched as far back as November 2020.

So if CNN has covered this, please give us the link.

All I could find:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/26/health/vitamin-d-coronavirus-wellness/index.html

Thanks. I didn't look that far back. The date of the article is May 27, 2020, so that's apparently the most recent time CNN addressed vitamin D and covid. From the article... it's leading some to ask, "What can it hurt if I take vitamin D supplements?" Actually, it can hurt a lot. . The article then goes on to list the potential overdose effects of vitamin D. It didn't address the promising vitamin D studies at all! It looks like the author just did a cut and paste from a medical website to list potential side effects.

Now, from the Israeli study...

“We found it remarkable, and striking, to see the difference in the chances of becoming a severe patient when you are lacking in vitamin D compared to when you’re not,” said Dr. Amiel Dror, a Galilee Medical Center physician and Bar Ilan researcher who was part of the team behind the study.

“People should learn from this that studies pointing to the importance of taking vitamin D are very reliable, and aren’t based on skewed data,” he said. “And it emphasizes the value of everyone taking a vitamin D supplement during the pandemic, which, consumed in sensible amounts in accordance with official advice, doesn’t have any downside.”

I've read a LOT of studies on vitamin D over the past 22 months. Here are some key points.

Vitamin D is not absorbed well by some demographics, including the obese, Blacks, elderly, dark-skinned populations.

Unless you take megadoses (not safe!), daily supplementation does not quickly cause vitamin D levels to rise. Instead, vitamin D gradually accumulates in the body, reaching a plateau in 6-8 months after starting daily supplementation.

Since vitamin D deficiency has been linked to covid, everyone should have their D levels checked. Checking D level is a simple blood test that costs only $99 at my local lab, but if you tell your doctor you're taking vitamin D and want to make sure your levels aren't too high, your doctor will add a D test to your routine bloodwork usually at no charge. I get this done every 6-8 months and titrate my dosage accordingly.

Deaths have occurred from eating polar bear liver, which contains over one million IU of vitamin D.

Studies of supplementation with very high doses over several months resulted in no adverse effects with D levels averaging around 150. (Still, I wouldn't recommend this.)

The RDA of vitamin D and the accepted normal range (20-30ng/ml) are both somewhat arbitrary and based more on observation than science.

Dozens of studies show that vitamin D boosts the immune system to provide benefits against flu, pneumonia, and similar diseases.

Summit, the world's 2nd largest supercomputer, analyzed tens of thousands of cases and recommended about ten promising preventives/treatments. Vitamin D was on that shortlist.

tl;dr

Vitamin D is cheap, widely available, and safe at normal supplement doses. There are large potential benefits and very minimal downside risks. It's a no-brainer to take vitamin D. Since vitamin D promises benefits against a wide range of diseases, both vaccinated and unvaccinated adults should be taking it.

117 dubious conclusions every runner should know wrote:

The study's conclusion:

Among hospitalized COVID-19 patients, pre-infection deficiency of vitamin D was associated with increased disease severity and mortality.

So it's not just looking at the outcomes of people who got covid, but people who were hospitalized with covid. Huge difference.

And you know what decreases your chance of hospitalization? And decreases the severity of covid infection? The vaccine. Reinventing the got-damn wheel here, I swear. It's like some people would really rather come up with their own answers even if the result is less useful than just following public health advice. All in the name of free thinking. Everything is about identity

I don't see anyone in this thread saying you should take Vitamin D and not get the vaccine. You went there. But if high levels of Vitamin D also help, why would everyone not be happy about this? It takes a special person to get mad at potentially good news.

You won't get an answer wrote:

117 dubious conclusions every runner should know wrote:

The study's conclusion:

So it's not just looking at the outcomes of people who got covid, but people who were hospitalized with covid. Huge difference.

And you know what decreases your chance of hospitalization? And decreases the severity of covid infection? The vaccine. Reinventing the got-damn wheel here, I swear. It's like some people would really rather come up with their own answers even if the result is less useful than just following public health advice. All in the name of free thinking. Everything is about identity

I don't see anyone in this thread saying you should take Vitamin D and not get the vaccine. You went there. But if high levels of Vitamin D also help, why would everyone not be happy about this? It takes a special person to get mad at potentially good news.

Exactly. And look at the usual covidiot crowd, avoiding this thread. They hate good news if they are not vaccine related.

That's the way the plandemic has been orchestrated. Pharma wants to make sure nothing else gets in way of their mass vaccination program.

You won't get an answer wrote:

117 dubious conclusions every runner should know wrote:

The study's conclusion:

So it's not just looking at the outcomes of people who got covid, but people who were hospitalized with covid. Huge difference.

And you know what decreases your chance of hospitalization? And decreases the severity of covid infection? The vaccine. Reinventing the got-damn wheel here, I swear. It's like some people would really rather come up with their own answers even if the result is less useful than just following public health advice. All in the name of free thinking. Everything is about identity

I don't see anyone in this thread saying you should take Vitamin D and not get the vaccine. You went there. But if high levels of Vitamin D also help, why would everyone not be happy about this? It takes a special person to get mad at potentially good news.

I'm 65 and in fantastic health (no colds flu for the last 7 years). I decided to bet on my innate immune system instead of the jab. Got omicron a month ago. It was the flu for five days then normal recovery. Back to full training now and if anything the break in training was beneficial. The one prophylaxis I did was 10K i.u. D3 + K2 plus magnesium. And now I have the gold standard immunity, good for years instead of months. Having a background in biology and having followed the science pretty closely I have recommended most of my friends with comorbidities to go with the jab and they have.

A great quote from a Ugandan doctor I heard yesterday: "Omicron is the vaccine we couldn't make."

Patients *with vitamin D deficiency*. Most people on a normal diet won't have a vitamin D deficiency, and gain nothing by supplementing.

Pretty sure posting this makes you a racist, science denying, anti-vaxxer and murderer of grandmas