HERE COME THE BUFFS!!!

actually, they don't have the same team at all. do your research.

As much as I would like to see them do well, Ive got to point out that they arent exactly the same team. Here is last years nationals top 5 vs. the team that has raced this year (Last years 4-7 shuffled a bit with Harkrader and Scott.)

2004 2005

Nelson Vaughn

Schoolmeester Schoolmeester

Severy Pifer

Pifer Strang

Strang Batliner

I won't ever count them out, because they always seem to peak better for one race than anyone in the country and run well on that one day. But I dont think this team is quite as good as last years. Last year I was one of the very few people who straight up said that they would win. I think they have a legit shot this year, but Im not willing to make that bold of a statement this time around. I do think they will beat Arkansas. As for Wisco, it all comes down to how they race, if they didnt learn their lesson (which some people claim they didnt), then the buffs get my pick based on running a smarter race. But if Wisco runs the way they should, it'll be tough to beat them.

With Harkrader, maybe, but I don't think they can hang with a fifth man in the 50-60th range, which might be the case with Batliner...They could be unbeatable next year IF they can stay away from any more broken pelvises.

okay, i have to point out that you put nelson in 2004 and vaughn in 2005. other than that, where am i wrong. are we saying that since the order isn't the exact same that they aren't the same team? when does a 1-5 stay the same all year long? with really good teams it usually doesn't. so here's last year's 1-7 at NC's and this year's team.

1. 4 Vaughn

2. 5 Schoolmeister

3. 15 Severy

4. 31 Pifer

5. 35 Strang

6. (56) Scott

7. (91) Harkrader

this year:

1. possibly hurt, but as stated Nelson is now there

2. running

3.

4. running

5. running

6.

7. running

i was really talking about their top 5 so maybe i missed out on Severy, i thought he was back. also, i realize that the numbers i've put down are points not placing, just so i won't have that thrown at me. so toss out severy if that's the case and throw in Batliner, Baillie, Janson, and who knows possibly Vaughn and like i said HERE COME THE BUFFS!!! be ready for them to run well. sorry for being so far off in my statement. point was that this team this year is not much differnt from the same team that won it all last year.

...but, i still think this is the year of the HOG!!! WOOOOOO PIG SOOOIE!!! GO HOGS!!!

Hey, man, the Buffs are my team, but I just don't see it being possible. It is my understanding that Harkrader is done for the season, so you definitely won't be seeing him next Monday (thus my concern with Batliner being their 5th). Have you heard otherwise? As you noted, CU's fifth was 35th last season, and I doubt Bat will crack the top 50, although I'm rooting for him. The Buffs will run admirably, but I think they're going to be a little short-handed. With Vaughn and Harkrader, you could be looking at Strang being the number 6, possibly being in the top 30, which gives them a solid shot. Like I said, next year should be sweet.

First of all, Wetmore can really coach some XC.

Last year CU top 2 were in top 5, I would expect after seeing how easily they dispatched of some folks to put wto in top 10, 3 in top 20, 4 in top 30, then what?

Does that 4 even get them close?

Not so sure of that this year.

I would figure Wiscy for three in top 15. All 5 in top 30?

does anyone know who are the 8-9 guys that are traveling to nats on the team? im mainly wondering about 6-9 since that seems to have changed some since prenats and big 12s to now

I do not think they will even take 8 but who knows, 7 is not an impact runner and their other guys a bit dinged up and have, I believe ended their seasons.

As far as I know Bradley is not racing, meaning that they return 3 of last years top 7 but add Billy. Their 5,6,7 were their 8,9,10 last year. You act like the loss of Sev is no big deal, which is not at all the case. He was 18th and a huge part of why they won last year.

so who is the team, are chuilli or baile running or any of those other guys like panone