What? There may be a $4 drug that is 90% effective against Covid-19, why in the hell aren't we talking about fluvoxamine?

The dosing they used in these trials is bananas.

100mg twice, sometimes three times a day for ten days.

Anyone who has been on a SSRI before will know that's going to mess you up (normal dose is like 50mg once a day)

It's not a "can't hurt to try" drug, not at that dose.

With all these alternative treatments you need to stop reading the "enthusiasts" just as much as you wouldn't read what the big pharma would have to say against it. The "enthusiasts" will never tell you the bad parts.

When it doesn't work the "enthusiasts" then just say "well you didn't take enough/early enough/long enough".

Instead read the qualified interpretations of the complex trial data by people with no stake in the "game"

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/a-closer-look-at-the-new-fluvoxamine-trial-data-69369

An EUA was submitted before the end of the year for Fluvoxamine. There are larger trials that are ongoing for it. But currently, we do not know what the appropriate dosage is (some early trial participants could not tolerate higher dosage) and we only have very small trials and observational studies. The reason we do not rush out a drug to treat COVID based on promising results from small studies is that in doing so we risk people's lives by setting aside proven treatments in favor of something that has not been proven. That is why we require large scale randomized trials before we put a new drug to use.

But the reason you may not have heard about it is two fold. One, the responsible medical community follows the normal process for determining drug efficacy and does not determine critical treatments by what is trending on social media. Two, Fluvoxamine is not trending on social media because ivermectin has been the darling of the anti-vaxxer right wingers and has sucked all the attention away from other promising treatments.

Oh and for "no reduction in time to symptom resolution" that's a hell of a drug at a hell of a dose to mess you up.

So now you have post-covid symptoms AND fluvoxmine withdrawal.

(the "enthusiasts" never mention the problem with severe SSRI withdrawal symptoms)

1. The use of fluvoxamine did not impact the incidence of COVID-19-related hospitalizations.

2. Fluvoxamine did not have a consistent impact on mortality.

3. Fluvoxamine did not impact time to symptom resolution.

https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/fluvoxamine-data/

Fluvoxamine is an antidepressant which is also used to treat OCD and anxiety disorders.

Side-effect include: constipation, gastrointestinal issues, headaches, anxiety, sexual problems, sleep problems and a risk of suicide at the start of treatment.

Conclusion: Fluvoxamine is not the solution anti-vaxxers are praying for.

https://www.drugs.com/mtm/fluvoxamine.html

Doctors who are encouraged to practice the “art” of medicine and have had the courage to use off label drugs and go against the medical orthodoxy have had great success treating Covid (minimal deaths and/or hospitalizations). If we waited for trials and peer review, many more lives would’ve been lost. This is within the doctor/patient relationship (before public health “authorities” and pharmacies got involved) to prevent this widespread suffering and tragedy.

By the way IVM isn’t necessary to treat Covid, but it does work. Everyone I know who took it at onset (some very high risk) had very mild symptoms when Delta was the variant of the year. Makes sense as it is a protease inhibitor, ACE-2 blocker, and antiflammatory.

These vaccines are not a panacea. These aren’t traditional attenuated viral vaccines like the population is accustomed to taking, and it’s impossible to vaccinate out of a CoronaViral pandemic. It’s entirely possible that we are seeing ADE now with Omicron among the vaccinated. Let’s hope it really is mild, in which case, the vaccinated will be really fortunate.

I will take therapeutics and my immune system responding to all of the different antigens of the virus any day of the week over a lipid-coated strand of mRNA that merely codes for the S protein presented by the original variant, a piece of RNA that invades the cytoplasm and nucleus and inhibits DNA repair as well as codes for spike that gets stuck for a period of time all over the body, and causes an inflammatory response. These “vaccines” are the domain of the elderly and obese with significant comorbidity.

good luck with that wrote:

The dosing they used in these trials is bananas.

100mg twice, sometimes three times a day for ten days.

A bottle of 30 x 100mg tablets sells for $190 before taxes. The price is closer to $7 per pill. And it appears you need to start taking as soon as you feel sick. It is a drug and does not offer immunity, meaning that you can get covid a few weeks later and you'll need to buy another bottle of pills.

It continues to amaze me how people are so willing to latch on to some random drug for off label use, but are also so vehemently against vaccines at the same time. Does no one remember the saying about an ounce of prevention and a pound of cure???

Covidiocy wrote:

Doctors who are encouraged to practice the “art” of medicine and have had the courage to use off label drugs and go against the medical orthodoxy have had great success treating Covid (minimal deaths and/or hospitalizations).

They are called snake oil salesmen and they sell placebos.

Well no to be fair you may be looking at the brand name Luvox instead of the generic.

I happen to know it's only $20 for 30 days even without insurance because I happen to have a bottle sitting right here lol

While there are probably a few frequent posters I've seen on this site who probably should be on it, most definitely do not recommend people casually take this off-label for anything unless there are no other options.

https://www.goodrx.com/fluvoxamine?dosage=100mg&form=tablet&label_override=fluvoxamine&quantity=30&sort_type=popularity

Yeah, why use oral medications of known constituency and long-term proven safety when you can have an incompetent, non-aspirated injection of an undisclosed substance which in the first six months of 2021 only caused ~150K deaths, plus many many more systemic injuries, mostly to young and otherwise healthy people?

So mysterious.

fell in love with a clown at a clown show wrote:

Is it possible that this thread is going ot win the Nobel AND Pulitzer Prizes for this incredible, groundbreaking discovery?

Thank god your friend had you to "research' a cure for COVID that everyone else missed.

OR:

Everyone actually already knows about it, it's been approved by certain medical regions already, Johns Hopkins endorsed it in November, and you just read about it 2 months late.

I don't know. Tough call. Those seem like about even odds.

AZDZ wrote:

Yeah, why use oral medications of known constituency and long-term proven safety when you can have an incompetent, non-aspirated injection of an undisclosed substance which in the first six months of 2021 only caused ~150K deaths, plus many many more systemic injuries, mostly to young and otherwise healthy people?

So mysterious.

OMG, you're right!

THEY are out to get US!!!

RUN!!!!!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!

Studies have shown high-dose vitamin D3 w/K2 and zinc is highly effective, even more so than the jabs, yet theses studies are suppressed in publications and shadow banned by mainstream media. This is for an OTC nutrient available everywhere and costs pennies per dose. Fauci mentioned once in the last two years, under his breath, that yes he takes D3.

The funnel of profit always leads to Pharma Profiteering, sparing no human lives or suffering.

Timothy Foyle wrote:

AZDZ wrote:

Yeah, why use oral medications of known constituency and long-term proven safety when you can have an incompetent, non-aspirated injection of an undisclosed substance which in the first six months of 2021 only caused ~150K deaths, plus many many more systemic injuries, mostly to young and otherwise healthy people?

So mysterious.

OMG, you're right!

THEY are out to get US!!!

RUN!!!!!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!

How many accounts have you registered on this site, Timmy?

good luck with that wrote:

I happen to know it's only $20 for 30 days even without insurance because I happen to have a bottle sitting right here lol

???? you have the wrong dosage.

Please identify what you bought for $20. How many pills ... probably 30. The strength (mg) probably 25mg. And then compare that to the 100mg x up to 3 times pr day used in the study. This is a prescription required drug. You'll run out of pills to match the dosage within a 2-1/2 days (4 pills taken 3x per day = 12 pills per day) and you won't be able to refill for another 30 days. If you have a prescription.

Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:

Timothy Foyle wrote:

OMG, you're right!

THEY are out to get US!!!

RUN!!!!!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!

How many accounts have you registered on this site, Timmy?

So screams out the guy who has as many (thousands) posting names as jamin, hardloper and sally vix.

Antivaxers: All vaccines, bad.

Also antivaxers: Random drugs used off label and not effective, good.

Steve The Addict OFFICIAL -----^^^^^ wrote:

Timothy Foyle wrote:

OMG, you're right!

THEY are out to get US!!!

RUN!!!!!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!

How many accounts have you registered on this site, Timmy?

OMG, one of YOU is on to US!

And now you must be eliminated.

RUN!!!

RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!!! :-)

This is a great example of an intelligent person coated with ignorance.