Newbury Park - Why are the ducking the competition and going to Running Lane and not Eastbay?

I heard at Eastbay you have to wear a mask. I would rather go to RunningLane and not wear a mask.

Runninglane is way deeper than NXN ever was. I went through the entrants and found 10 kids who reside in NXR Midwest region who will break 14:45 on Saturday. 1/2 wouldn't be in the race at NXN even though any of them may finish top 10 in a national meet. And all of the top boys' teams are entered. So a better question would be why do teams ever run NXN?

I think Newbury Park was literally one of the first teams to commit to RunningLane. Anyone that wanted a piece of the Newbury Park guys had plenty of time to make arrangements to be in Huntsville, AL this weekend.

I would love to see them go and try to sweep the top 3 spots and put 4 in the top 10, both of which I think would be possible. However, their top 4 seem to prioritize the team, and would probably like to win a team national championship even if it may not mean as much as winning NXN. It would also be a bit unfair to their 5-7 who are all good runners in their own right to not be able to compete at a national championship. It would be amazing though to see what they could do at eastbay.

sussy baka wrote:

I would love to see them go and try to sweep the top 3 spots and put 4 in the top 10, both of which I think would be possible. However, their top 4 seem to prioritize the team, and would probably like to win a team national championship even if it may not mean as much as winning NXN. It would also be a bit unfair to their 5-7 who are all good runners in their own right to not be able to compete at a national championship. It would be amazing though to see what they could do at eastbay.

Won't their top 3 run from the front like they did at the California state meet? It's a race after all. The 4th guy will have people around him to run with.

One troll thread after another. My guess when it’s all over RunningLane will have the greatest collection of distance high school talent ever assembled this Saturday.

“We can scald dogs, put records out of reach! Make the stands gasp as we blow into an unearthly kick from three hundred yards out! We can become God's own messengers delivering the dreaded scrolls! We can race dark Satan till he wheezes fiery cinders down the back straightaway!”

How many in top 50 Tully speed rating are at Eastbay vs Runninglane?

I don't think they really need to prove to anyone that they're the best team in the country and one of the best of all time.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

sussy baka wrote:

I would love to see them go and try to sweep the top 3 spots and put 4 in the top 10, both of which I think would be possible. However, their top 4 seem to prioritize the team, and would probably like to win a team national championship even if it may not mean as much as winning NXN. It would also be a bit unfair to their 5-7 who are all good runners in their own right to not be able to compete at a national championship. It would be amazing though to see what they could do at eastbay.

Won't their top 3 run from the front like they did at the California state meet? It's a race after all. The 4th guy will have people around him to run with.

Did I say something that implied this wouldn’t happen?

sussy baka wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

Won't their top 3 run from the front like they did at the California state meet? It's a race after all. The 4th guy will have people around him to run with.

Did I say something that implied this wouldn’t happen?

"However, their top 4 seem to prioritize the team..."

What does that imply?

coachy wrote:

One troll thread after another. My guess when it’s all over RunningLane will have the greatest collection of distance high school talent ever assembled this Saturday.

On the boys side I suspect it will actually be close to the typical NXN meet for the top 100. I looked at just the west, and for the top 35 or so it looks like Running Lane is getting about half of those runners.

For the girls it looks a little thinner, for whatever reason not as many teams are going.

Maybe someone will run the full comparisons.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

sussy baka wrote:

Did I say something that implied this wouldn’t happen?

"However, their top 4 seem to prioritize the team..."

What does that imply?

That implies they seem to enjoy running as a full team and winning team titles, which runninglane provides and Eastbay obviously does not

I think it just came off as if you had a condescending tone about them wanting to win a team title instead of trying to get people to Eastbay nationals. If Eastbay was smart they would recognize that the west region is obviously reduced and only have 5 open spots at regionals, and then take the top 5 athletes from the west region who are racing at RLN this weekend instead, because there is a real chance that a NP kid wins over Riley Hough this weekend and Riley Hough wins Eastbay nationals. This would make Eastbay a farce if their national champion got trounced the previous weekend at the team nats meet and the kid(s) that beat him couldn't run at Eastbay because they chose to win team nats instead.

Kid from somewhere wrote:

I think it just came off as if you had a condescending tone about them wanting to win a team title instead of trying to get people to Eastbay nationals. If Eastbay was smart they would recognize that the west region is obviously reduced and only have 5 open spots at regionals, and then take the top 5 athletes from the west region who are racing at RLN this weekend instead, because there is a real chance that a NP kid wins over Riley Hough this weekend and Riley Hough wins Eastbay nationals. This would make Eastbay a farce if their national champion got trounced the previous weekend at the team nats meet and the kid(s) that beat him couldn't run at Eastbay because they chose to win team nats instead.

I didn’t mean to be condescending but now I can see how what I said could be perceived that way. I like when athletes put their team above individual interests in xc.

Footlocker often ran into this problem with NXN champions such as Liam Anderson, Nico Young, and Katelyn Tuohy not being able to go to the west regional. I think it would also be a bad look for eastbay to just invite top finishers from runninglane, but I can’t really think of a better way to get the NP boys there. NXN should be the only national championship in my opinion but with footlockers history and Nike cancelling this year it’s very unlikely for that to ever happen. It would be the only way to get rid of all these questions and hypotheticals.

Big Card wrote:

Runninglane is way deeper than NXN ever was. I went through the entrants and found 10 kids who reside in NXR Midwest region who will break 14:45 on Saturday. 1/2 wouldn't be in the race at NXN even though any of them may finish top 10 in a national meet. And all of the top boys' teams are entered. So a better question would be why do teams ever run NXN?

Deeper as in more people yes. But deeper as in all the top talent being there no.

Yes way deeper. Way more top individuals due to not having an elimination round. Regions like the Heartland routinely pushes 5 guys to nationals who are 9:10 type 3200 guys while the midwest regional will eliminate 8:55 type guys. These guys will be in the race. Do realize that 15:20 is the cut for the fast heat and there are 300 guys in it? 100 individuals get in whereas only 1/2 of that get into NXN. Our state champ ran 8:58 last spring and 15:25 this fall and he is in the silver race here!

Kinda dumb running lane qualification for the fast heat is by XC time. Shouldn't track times be considered seeing that every XC course is different. I am from New England and we will routinely have kids run 15:40s for XC that are sub 9 and 4:10 milers, but the courses here are not road races like a lot of XC courses are. I always thought xc was about place and it really didnt matter what time you ran. Track is about time.

They did that for teams but then used verified XC times for individuals. I doubt that the 200th best kid had any chance to win the gold race. Somebody has to win the silver race.