Personal Tragedy

Hope you're handling this ok. Family too.

Yes, it's stupid. But young kids are stupid. Often they have to 'live and learn.' Only problem is this often involves taking someone's elses' life with potentially tools such as cars and such.

should be "potentially dangerous"

why drugs and alcohol? wrote:

I guess what I'm getting at is why kids these days feel they need to drink and smoke pot.

You need to add "and drive" to that sentence. Sorry for your loss.

That's terribly irresponsible of those kids and completely inexcusable. I'm very sorry for your loss. But the problem here isn't alcohol or drugs, its alcohol and drugs combined with driving.

I am extremely sorry for your loss, I cannot even imagine the pain you must be in. I have a brother and it is almost impossible for someone to comprehend the hurt that that could bring.

My friends never used to drink and drive. But one thing they did do a lot of was smoke pot and drive. For some reason the popular phrase is, dont drink and drive. Only recently have I heard, dont drug and drive.

I hope you have pursued some legal action, if thats possible at all? I'd be interested in knowing the outcome.

Honestly, I wish death to the driver of that car. Meaning, yes, the death penalty. If someone took my brother away from me, he deserves to die a most painful death.

So are those two punks going to spend about 15-20 years behind bars now? That should be the MINIMUM for an offense like that.

Sorry dude. I'm sure he was a great person, runner or no.

I don't have a problem with people who drink and smoke, but I do have a problem with people who are irresponsible about it. Driving a car when that drunk is inexcusable.

xasfsds wrote:

Sorry dude. I'm sure he was a great person, runner or no.

I don't have a problem with people who drink and smoke, but I do have a problem with people who are irresponsible about it. Driving a car when that drunk is inexcusable.

Here, here.

I am so sorry for the loss that you have taken. God be with you and your family.

On the other hand I just want to peep in as a weed smoker and drinker, that you can be responsible while under the influence. What you should be mad at is DUMBASS PEOPLE, high or not they find ways to f*** things up.

xasfsds wrote:

I don't have a problem with people who drink and smoke,

First, God bless the first guy and terribly sorry for your loss.

Second, to the guy I am quoting, there is a big problem with drinking excessively and smoking marijuana in this country WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE DRIVES AFTER DOING IT. If you don't see that, can't put together the other situations where this causes problems, or don't recognize the character and behavioral flaws inherent in people who choose to contravene the law for their own "fun," I think it's YOU who need help.

Again, to the first guy, sorry for your loss.

If I were you, I would find these worthless wastes of O2, hire a very good lawyer, and stare them in the eye as they cry like the babies they are when the judge hands out a jail sentence several decades long where they can be penetrated by slobbering, 350 pound guys named "Butch" and think every minute of every day how they ruined someone's life. People like that are truly sad reflections on the human race.

God Bless yourself and your family.

there is a big problem with drinking excessively and smoking marijuana in this country WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE DRIVES AFTER DOING IT.

prove that there is or shut the f*** up

Sad story wrote:

Second, to the guy I am quoting, there is a big problem with drinking excessively and smoking marijuana in this country WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE DRIVES AFTER DOING IT.

By definition, doing anything excessively (including running, going to church, praying, and drinking milk) causes problems. That's what excessive means. But thanks for the tautology.

So much needless death and yet the human race is still overpopulating the earth and using up all this planet's natural resources...this civilization is so screwed :(

Phaedrus wrote:

By definition, doing anything excessively (including running, going to church, praying, and drinking milk) causes problems. That's what excessive means. But thanks for the tautology.

Uh, no. Running excessively is tough to do. Elite athletes run up to 150 per week and I doubt that would be called excessive by anyone who knows what it takes to get to the top.

"Praying" and going to church excessively? What? That's more likely to be the habir of a saint than it is to be the habit of an excessive person.

Drinking alcohol excessively is very easy to do in a college campus. Smoking pot at all is illegal.

its not 'kids these days' kids have always done this, in fact there would be fewer kids doing this these days than in the 70's or 80's. Very sad incident non-the-less.

[quote][Uh, no. Running excessively is tough to do. Elite athletes run up to 150 per week and I doubt that would be called excessive by anyone who knows what it takes to get to the top.

/quote]

What's excessive for one is normal for another. For one who has adapted to 150 mpw, it's normal. For me (Mr. 40 MPW these days), it would be insane.

I can drink two beers and drive just fine (with the BAC to prove it). My girlfriend has two beers and I have to carry her home.

It's all in the details. know your body, know your limits, be responsible for your actions.

sorry about your brother. God Bless.

Sorry for your loss.

Please do re-post the next time someone defends prefontaine by saying he made a one time mistake and start with that "lived life to the fullest" crap. Driving under the influence changes the lives of many, and it's never in a good way.