Tom Brady's 600th TD football

You mad, bro?

mixed feelings wrote:

Tom Brady has a net worth of $230M. His wife 's net worth is twice that.

Dear Lord, this is actually true. I looked it up when I read your post. More than 20 years dominating the NFL and winning seven Super Bowls versus smiling for a camera. How the hell does she make so much money? She's pretty, but there are many models who are far better looking than her. Take a walk through a college campus today and you will see several females who are better looking. I personally think most models look a little strange, especially the way they slather the makeup on them. So much for women being underpaid.

$400 million R U Kidding? wrote:

mixed feelings wrote:

Tom Brady has a net worth of $230M. His wife 's net worth is twice that.

Dear Lord, this is actually true. I looked it up when I read your post. More than 20 years dominating the NFL and winning seven Super Bowls versus smiling for a camera. How the hell does she make so much money? She's pretty, but there are many models who are far better looking than her. Take a walk through a college campus today and you will see several females who are better looking. I personally think most models look a little strange, especially the way they slather the makeup on them. So much for women being underpaid.

Gisele's a fashion model and entrepreneur. I don't know why, but for some reason she does a much better job of selling products than other fashion models, and that's the standard the fashion industry uses. If your image and likeness sells products you get paid, if it doesn't you don't. Again, I dont know why, but she sells products and therefore got paid more than other fashion models.

Then there's her businesses. She owns multiple businesses in multiple countries and similar to the products she endorses, the products just fly off the shelves. The successful businesses is a big reason she makes so much more money than other models. Add that with the fact that for whatever reason that her image and likeness sells more products than other models, and now you have your answer as to why she makes so much money.

Tom knows football, and just football. He's very good at what he does, but that's all he does. Gisele is the most successful fashion model of all time and a successful business owner. Entrepreneurship makes a lot more money than being an employee, even if you are the best employee in the history of your profession like Tom Brady.

If push came to shove, the receiver did not own the ball, so couldn't transfer ownership to the fan.

Look at it this way: The WR made a mistake. He thought it was just a regular ball he was giving away, turns out it was a very important ball. It'd be like if a truck driver got the address wrong and delivered a Ferrari to your driveway. It's not yours just because they mistakenly gave it to you. But when you give it back without a fuss they'll probably throw in a leather Ferrari jacket for your troubles.

Besides, the fan did absolutely nothing to deserve this ball other than being rich enough to buy front-row seats.

Nacho ball wrote:

Look at it this way: The WR made a mistake. He thought it was just a regular ball he was giving away, turns out it was a very important ball. It'd be like if a truck driver got the address wrong and delivered a Ferrari to your driveway. It's not yours just because they mistakenly gave it to you. But when you give it back without a fuss they'll probably throw in a leather Ferrari jacket for your troubles.

Besides, the fan did absolutely nothing to deserve this ball other than being rich enough to buy front-row seats.

All of that, plus if you refuse to give it up you run the risk of being doxxed/shamed by the social media mob. It's just not worth it IMO.

That's messed up that they would do that to the fan. I don't understand the legal side but if the fan legally owned the ball and they only gave him $1k in merchandise for it when it was worth 500X that then they should at a minimum offer to give it back and/or work out a fair deal to both sides.

Nacho ball wrote:

Look at it this way: The WR made a mistake. He thought it was just a regular ball he was giving away, turns out it was a very important ball. It'd be like if a truck driver got the address wrong and delivered a Ferrari to your driveway. It's not yours just because they mistakenly gave it to you. But when you give it back without a fuss they'll probably throw in a leather Ferrari jacket for your troubles.

Besides, the fan did absolutely nothing to deserve this ball other than being rich enough to buy front-row seats.

Interesting analogy, except a ferrari is known to have value and worth. And the mistake was delivering to a wrong address.

This is more like Amazon making a delivery that happens to be their one billionth item sold. And now Jeff Bezos wants the box back after the delivery was made because that particular box is now worth $500k.

That dude should have booked it outta there when he saw someone coming for him.

Nacho ball wrote:

Look at it this way: The WR made a mistake. He thought it was just a regular ball he was giving away, turns out it was a very important ball. It'd be like if a truck driver got the address wrong and delivered a Ferrari to your driveway. It's not yours just because they mistakenly gave it to you. But when you give it back without a fuss they'll probably throw in a leather Ferrari jacket for your troubles.

Besides, the fan did absolutely nothing to deserve this ball other than being rich enough to buy front-row seats.

And being cute.

America's fury wrote:

That dude should have booked it outta there when he saw someone coming for him.

That's what I'd have done if I realized it was #600. I would have left as soon as I was given the ball.

But who knows, maybe the guy didn't actually need the extra 500K.

It's easy to say "what I would have done." But me, if needing something for retirement I would have kept it and not put it up for auction until Tom Brady was inducted into the football hall of fame. Probably be worth more than 500K at that point. But for 1K worth of merchandise? B.T. Barnum the circus guy had a famous quote, "A sucker is born every minute." Poor Sap!

I’m not a collector so I don’t appreciate the value to Brady or a fan. You can buy the exact ball at a sporting goods store for $50 I’m guessing.

What are you going to do with it? Set it on the mantle and pray to it?

To each his own I guess.

as read on Letsrun wrote:

Nacho ball wrote:

Look at it this way: The WR made a mistake. He thought it was just a regular ball he was giving away, turns out it was a very important ball. It'd be like if a truck driver got the address wrong and delivered a Ferrari to your driveway. It's not yours just because they mistakenly gave it to you. But when you give it back without a fuss they'll probably throw in a leather Ferrari jacket for your troubles.

Besides, the fan did absolutely nothing to deserve this ball other than being rich enough to buy front-row seats.

All of that, plus if you refuse to give it up you run the risk of being doxxed/shamed by the social media mob. It's just not worth it IMO.

That has absolutely nothing to do with it. She did not acquire ownership.

If a fan catches a WS walkoff home run ball, he/she owns it. If it bounced back on to the field of play, the outfielder picked it up and handed it to a fan, it would not be ownership.

Angelo Pappas wrote:

I’m not a collector so I don’t appreciate the value to Brady or a fan. You can buy the exact ball at a sporting goods store for $50 I’m guessing.

What are you going to do with it? Set it on the mantle and pray to it?

To each his own I guess.

That's like saying all people are exactly the same.

HappyJack wrote:

America's fury wrote:

That dude should have booked it outta there when he saw someone coming for him.

That's what I'd have done if I realized it was #600. I would have left as soon as I was given the ball.

But who knows, maybe the guy didn't actually need the extra 500K.

It's easy to say "what I would have done." But me, if needing something for retirement I would have kept it and not put it up for auction until Tom Brady was inducted into the football hall of fame. Probably be worth more than 500K at that point. But for 1K worth of merchandise? B.T. Barnum the circus guy had a famous quote, "A sucker is born every minute." Poor Sap!

You wouldn't own it so you couldn't auction it. If a player took Brady's helmet off the bench and gave to you, would you now own it?

Doesn't matter how much Brady is worth or his wife is worth or how much the Buccaneers are worth, right is right, and people are not entitled to unearned success. The only correct thing to do there is for the fan to give the ball back.

If you want $500,000, go make $500,000. Neither Brady nor the team is obligated to give a fan ANYTHING just because he has possession of a football.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

as read on Letsrun wrote:

All of that, plus if you refuse to give it up you run the risk of being doxxed/shamed by the social media mob. It's just not worth it IMO.

That has absolutely nothing to do with it. She did not acquire ownership.

If a fan catches a WS walkoff home run ball, he/she owns it. If it bounced back on to the field of play, the outfielder picked it up and handed it to a fan, it would not be ownership.

Who is she?

You're responding to me and another poster who both agree that there is no acquisition of ownership involved.

How much do you follow sports?

In football players often times keep the ball if it's a memorable touchdown or interception for them for example. So this receiver for Tampa could have kept the ball for his own. Claiming "I caught Tom Bradys 600 TD pass!" He caught it, he owns it if he wants to. But he gave it to a fan instead of Brady. Now the ownership is passed on to the fan. No one could legally take the ball away from him. Sorry if you don't agree with a law called "the chain of custody." But it is/was applicable in this case.