Oregon runner: "[XC has] always been a bunch of weirdos being weird together."

Wisner is really talented and the team camp sounds like a lot of fun. My college ran xc on a shoestring budget. There was no team camp. Some years we arrived on campus a week before other students. I've thought about adult running camps, but its usually a lot cheaper to just book a hotel and train for a week on my own.

I was actually looking for another thread recently. The gist was something like: 'Describe you school XC experience' , but I couldn't get it exactly right and didn't find it...

Then this surfaces, and I vaguely remembered it. Anyway, I have a question. It is touched upon earlier but I've always wondered:

In other threads on this topic, "all my best friends" is often used when waxing nostalgic. Let me say I raced primarily on roads in my youth (during high school, before, and since) and I wouldn't have/don't fit in to the XC scene as described in threads of this sort. So, I read this stuff not out of nostalgia but out of curiosity.

Even in this thread, "all my best friends" gets thrown around I think. But what happens when you show up for day 1 and you don't recognize a single soul? Do you not join? Do you just split and train on your own (which I advocate, actually, given that it worked great for me). What if the team is not even close to "all my best friends"? What if you have never met any of them? Does that eliminate the primary purpose of participating in the school XC program given that discussions of this sort always end up on the social elements?

If you want to know why this is getting bumped: Wisner was in charge of the New Gen camp(500 post thread on it so look to that for the whole story).

Last night this blog post from March was pulled by one of the girls that went to the camp last week.

arysthecreator.one

Matt Wisner is the main character

Arys Juarez

Age-24 Height- 5’ 11 From- Carlisle Pennsylvania University/Company- Duke and Oregon. Majored in Public policy and creative writing Favorite color- depends on the weather Favorite music genre- Indie Favorite Song- Pool party...

Link:www.arysthecreator.one/post/matt-wisne...

This is the bad part:
”The first time I talked to him during the interview I assumed he was totally annoyed with me and thought I was cringe. He probably does think that of me, but he sticks around to help anyway. It’s a total win no matter what. He once left 1,000,000 suggestions on a Google Doc article and I accepted them all because I’m submissive like that. He suggested that I should sexualize Carter Christman in the article, which oddly made me respect Matt more. Not because he told me (a minor) to sexualize his own friend who’s 6 years older than me. No, that's already known. It's because he was pushing me to be vulnerable, open, and out of pocket with my thoughts. He wanted me to be a verbal baddie. Allow me to elaborate. I, like most people, have thought and said how attractive someone is. That's normal. Writing it down, putting legitimate thought into it, and releasing it purposefully for people to see is another level of confidence that I’ve yet to achieve. Matt Wisner is that biotch.”

There are several disturbing things about this including:

1) Matt suggesting sexualizing and adult to a minor

2) That she would publicly appreciate he did that

3) That he presumably read this article and said “yes you can write that about me online” where it will never go away

If Matt or any of these other New Gen guys ever get access to make content for the pro/college/hs/etc running community again, it will be a shame. And the people who give them the platform to do so will be disappointing.

As for the camp, no way it ever happens again. The power dynamic of 17-18 year old girls being supervised by 23-25 year old guys who have never had a professional job and only get validation for their content from high schoolers is never going to work. Every video and comment that has surfaced about these guys over the last few days just gets worse and worse.

As a camp counselor he

-Is pictured in a Woman’s bathroom

-Giving the finger on New Gen Twitter profile picture

-Joking about incest on his social media

Duke Alums: Shaking their heads

Advice: Young man, you need help

Matthew Wisner should be grateful…

other than being humiliated, exposed for the entire country to see and watching his corporate backing disappear, assuming there’s more to his life than we already know, this could have been a lot worse for him…

That blog is weird af